Recovery after a long smash race...

valteng · May 13, 2008

Hi... What should I do to recover my pigeon and get them ready for the next race after a long smash race?

Lennut Tar · May 13, 2008

Hi... What should I do to recover my pigeon and get them ready for the next race after a long smash race?

First !!!!!!, what is a long smash race in your opinion, in your view ???????. "For me", forget about it etc, if your talking about a long distance race 500 miles plus. The body may appear ok to you ???????? after a few days etc. But the head & the heart will be gone 99 times out of 100 in my view, so much better to put them away till next year, & let them recover 100%, with a complete rest so to speak, so they can fight another day.

Enjoy.

valteng · May 13, 2008

thanks for your reply... by the wat my question is beat confusing... let me revised it... for example... first lap of race has been really hard and tough... what is the best possible way to recover your pigeons so the bird is still ready for the second lap?

Lennut Tar · May 13, 2008

thanks for your reply... by the wat my question is beat confusing... let me revised it... for example... first lap of race has been really hard and tough... what is the best possible way to recover your pigeons so the bird is still ready for the second lap?

Well !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D I did try ?????????? ;) but I'm afraid :P I'm more confused than ever now :'( :'( :'( so I will just give up :) & leave it to some one else here, to give their wisdom.

PS. Don't take what I say to serious Valteng, you will learn etc.

Enjoy.

May 13, 2008

rest and very gentle execise try to leave 2 weeks between long races if sending the same bird

valteng · May 14, 2008

what if we have four laps and basketing is done during friday and release is on sunday... if my pigeon returns on monday.. it is still possible for me to recover it in order to load it on the basketing? no worries....

Lennut Tar · May 14, 2008

what if we have four laps and basketing is done during friday and release is on sunday... if my pigeon returns on monday.. it is still possible for me to recover it in order to load it on the basketing? no worries....

Just love it !!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D what do you mean 4 laps etc, talk about confuse a man ;) .

You & I Valteng it appears are the only ones awake here, the rest of them are knackered :P & getting their beauty sleep, one could say.

PS. What distance race etc, are you talking about now.

Enjoy.

valteng · May 14, 2008

Here in the philippines.. our race here always have 4-6 laps. For ex. first 200 miles, 2nd 250 miles, 3rd 300 and so on... basketing is done during friday night. and release of the birds were on sunday... so my question is; what if my bird returned from race(1st lap), what is the best thing to do in order for my pigeon to be on its optimum condition for the next lap? no worries mate...

Tony C · May 14, 2008

Its a complex question you ask valteng as each pigeon will be different. The race may have been from 200 mile but how many miles has the pigeon flown in reality? could be x4 or x5 that distance. If the pigeon has called on all its reserves and has wasted muscle you could be looking at 4-6 week minimum. Firstly the pigeon will need time to cleanse itself of the lactic acid build up before you start to build it up again. Feed non fatty light feed for the first 3-4 days as to not over burden the digestive tract, liver & kidneys. I would then gradually introduce heavier grain (50% barley 50% heavy mix)with brewers yeast added to it, nothing but plain drinking water. Once the pigeon has regained its weight and its dropping have returned to small & solid with down falling don’t be fooled into thinking its ok, you will have to observe its behaviour and wait for the pigeon to tell you its right. The pigeon will now need its confidence built back up now, a few short tosses on easy days will help.

Also a pigeon flown on widowhood/celibacy will recover quicker that a pigeon flown on the natural system

Lennut Tar · May 14, 2008

Here in the philippines.. our race here always have 4-6 laps. For ex. first 200 miles, 2nd 250 miles, 3rd 300 and so on... basketing is done during friday night. and release of the birds were on sunday... so my question is; what if my bird returned from race(1st lap), what is the best thing to do in order for my pigeon to be on its optimum condition for the next lap? no worries mate...

AAAAAHHHHHHaaaaaaa ;D ;D ;D Now where beginning to understand your situation a wee bit better ;) Not quite long distance smash races etc :) But where in tune now, one could say ?????????? :P . Tony C's advise sounds pretty good to me for starters, & never forget now !!!!!!! etc, every pigeon is different in there own way/manner as we say. So now !!!!!!, have fun :X :X :X working them out in regards to the way you treat them.

Enjoy.

jimmy white · May 14, 2008

Its a complex question you ask valteng as each pigeon will be different. The race may have been from 200 mile but how many miles has the pigeon flown in reality? could be x4 or x5 that distance. If the pigeon has called on all its reserves and has wasted muscle you could be looking at 4-6 week minimum. Firstly the pigeon will need time to cleanse itself of the lactic acid build up before you start to build it up again. Feed non fatty light feed for the first 3-4 days as to not over burden the digestive tract, liver & kidneys. I would then gradually introduce heavier grain (50% barley 50% heavy mix)with brewers yeast added to it, nothing but plain drinking water. Once the pigeon has regained its weight and its droppings have returned to small & solid, with down falling don’t be fooled into thinking its ok, you will have to observe its behaviour and wait for the pigeon to tell you its right. The pigeon will now need its confidence built back up now, a few short tosses on easy days will help.
Also a pigeon flown on widowhood/celibacy will recover quicker that a pigeon flown on the natural system

this is an excellent post , valteng,[from tony c ] i would maybe add that its hours on the wing , and not distance [tony,s more or less explained that in a different way ] but maybe explain it this way valtang , ,,,a bird flying ,say 180 miles in 3 hours [velocity 1760 or 60 miles per hour]]would take less recouperating time , than a bird flying 180 miles in say,6 hours hours[ velocity 880 or 30 miles per hour] this could be due to different weather conditions etc ,,,,,,,,,,,i have made this mistake before with the bird looking ok , but its the acting ok that counts , as tony" says the bird will tell you" meaning its full of confidence ,flying well around the loft, bouncing with condition and life,and looking as though its enjoyimg life to the full sent before all this ,could well ruin a good bird , and learn it bad habits ,, home rather than race good luck valtang [philapines ] look forward to seeing your posts , as to your ways, and methods and the type of pigeon you fly :)

valteng · May 15, 2008

wow... thank you very much tony, jimmy and lennut tar.. you 3 were really a good pigeonmen:). here in the philippines derby races were usually done during stormy days. that's why it's really tough and very hard:(... i hope someday i can condition my bird so well where they can finished the race... i dont care about the awards or fame.. all i want is to see my pigeons return:)... cheers!

Lennut Tar · May 16, 2008

wow... thank you very much tony, jimmy and lennut tar.. you 3 were really a good pigeonmen:). here in the philippines derby races were usually done during stormy days. that's why it's really tough and very hard:(... i hope someday i can condition my bird so well where they can finished the race... i dont care about the awards or fame.. all i want is to see my pigeons return:)... cheers!

Valteng !!!!!!!!! Tony C & Jimm may be pretty smart people etc ;D ;D ;D but I'm not the brightest bunny around by far, have no doubt on that fact :P . All I do ???????? is try & add in some small way, the little bit of wisdom that I do have. To me !!!!!!!!! thats what makes this site so good etc, because you don't have to be Einstein ;) to post here. Everyone is welcome aboard "Well almost everyone" :X :X :X. ;)

Enjoy.

valteng · May 16, 2008

yup yup... that's nice to hear Lennut Tar... because pigeon racing should be a continous process.. it should be a cycle of learning and improvement, giving ang sharing... when you race and win.. its should not stop there..:) instead its a new thing to work on... its a responsibility... have a nice day mate..