Which is the best Long Distance racing?

[Guest]

If the question Long Distance is not on the poll, could you post us the spirint name please

[Guest]

Barkers Kirkpatricks and Family Affair Janssens

[westburylofts]

 

 

  THINK THE LATE GREAT JIM BISS BIRDS WOULD TAKE SOME BEATING.

 

 

   RAY

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British faroes

[Guest]

When did Jim Biss pass away ???

[westburylofts]

 

  He Passed away during the summer,

  will be missed.

 

  RAY

[Guest]

10 people posted from other Long Distance breeders.

 

Could you tell me what is OTHER best long distance breeders ?

[jimmy white]

the best long distant strain, is the birds bred through long distance winners, no matter  what their so called breed is,,, and management.

a van longdistantbreeding,, paired up with a van management. :)

[andy]

BANG ON JIMMY DEFINATELY THE MAN AS WELL AS THE TACKLE....

[Guest]

the best long distant strain, is the birds bred through long distance winners, no matter  what their so called breed is,,, and management.

a van longdistantbreeding,, paired up with a van management. :)

 

Good Post, Jimmy.

 

 

[Guest]

Gaby Vandenabeele and Flor Engels is middle or long distance?

[Guest]

  He Passed away during the summer,

  will be missed.

 

  RAY

 

Ray do you know how jim biss s auction do? I bet it made a lot of money.

[westburylofts]

 

The sale's went very well mate from what i have heard,   but i do not know the final total  mate

 

RAY

[Guest]

Gaby Vandenabeele and Flor Engels is middle or long distance?

 SPRINT/MID SAME AS BUSSCHAERT BUT THAY CAN ALL DO THE DISTADCE FOR SOME LOFTS WHEN THAY FIRST CAME TO ENGLAND BUSSCHAET WERE SPRINT THAT WAS IN THE 1960'S THAY ARE NOT SAME BIRDS YOU SEE TO DAY

 

[westburylofts]

 

THAT IS RIGHT HEATHCOTE

 

ONE OF THE FIRST TO HAVE THEM OVER HERE IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN

WAS A FANCIER CALLED GILL DUNCAN,  SADLY NO LONGER WITH US BUT I HAVE SPOKEN TO HIM MANY TIMES,

 

 

HE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE TRUE BUSSCHAERTS WOULD NOT DO ANY GOOD OVER 200/250 MILE'S.

 

RAY

[Guest]

RAY

 

YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT 200/250 MILES  THAT IS WHERE I FIRST MEET GEORGE AT GILLS LOFT. MOST OF THEM   WERE GAY PIEDS  .  

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Todays busschaert's will do most dis :)tances

[westburylofts]

 

Hi Shadow

 

But would you call them pure Busschaerts mate, ???????.

 

Ray

[westburylofts]

 

 

Yes Heathcote

Gill & George where the best of mates,  was not into the pigeons that long ago but i was lucky to get to know Gill later through the Greyhound's a great trainer in his own right, it was a real pleasure to know him and i feel hounered to have done so.

 

As you said a lot of gay pieds and pieds, some of the best birds i have ever seen,

also belive they where some of the first fanciers to use widowhood system.

and what  great great results they had with them.

 

Ray

[Guest]

I hope you are right about the Bushearts, as Ive just got them in this year to try out at the channel, they go back to the old Larkin/Corbett Lines, they certainly feel the part.

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Yes Heathcote

Gill & George where the best of mates,  was not into the pigeons that long ago but i was lucky to get to know Gill later through the Greyhound's a great trainer in his own right, it was a real pleasure to know him and i feel hounered to have done so.

 

As you said a lot of gay pieds and pieds, some of the best birds i have ever seen,

also belive they where some of the first fanciers to use widowhood system.

and what  great great results they had with them.

 

Ray

 There is no such thing as a pure pigeon no matter what strain they may be as soon as GB bought a pigeon it became one of his strain, the same happens on the continent to day they all buy or borrow birds off winning strains and blend them into their family, most familys are bred down from Jannsen some where along the line

 

 

[westburylofts]

Shadow i agree with you about there being no pure pigeons mate

and that also go's for the janssens as well ????.

 it is well known that they also brought in a few birds from other fanciers,

But as i said the first busschaerts into this country would not fly any good over aprox  250 miles, they where sprinters.

 

 

As you say no such thing as true busschaerts , but the point we was making is that  the first one's that came over where out and out sprinters

 

we all know that no familey of pigeons are pure.

 

RAY

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If every body knows there are no such birds as pure vanreets etc why keep calling them as such ( must be to sell them as who would buy van smiths or jones) I never sell any pigeons will give them away and they all have the loft name (shadowood lofts) regardless of their breeding

[westburylofts]

 

Good one shadow

we are the same have never sold a bird in our lives but have given plenty away to new starters, and a few mate's

 

RAY

 

P.S. as for the pure bird's a lot of mug's about   lol

[GREENGRASS]

most of the current successful lofts on the continent start with a mixture of top birds from all the established fanciers. They then breed best to best and through hard racing and ruthless culling are left with a team of excellent pigeons. Then these new  "VAN WINNERS" are the must have and we all go and buy some g.g.g grandchildren from them for our stock lofts instead of following their example and racing our own birds hard and culling the rubbish we try and buy in proven winners. we are all quilty of overstocking our lofts and breeding far too many youngsters year after year, then we wonder why we are loosing so many. regardless of how good a bird is it will not want to return home to an ovwrcrowded loft with poor management. take a look at any successful loft and you will see the birds have plenty of space and are always in top condition it is not by accident this happens. agree with the previous posts regarding pure breed as there is no such thing how could there be, as staf van reet would have had too start with a pair of van reets to begin with. i was lucky enough to meet mr bert braspenning at blackpool a couple of years ago and his advice was to be ruthless with your culling and buy the best birds from top winning lofts that you can afford, buy the best feeding you can afford and race them hard, adopt a management system that suits your lifestyle and stick to it. simple advice i know but it works.