Old Pied Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 Hi All Lets say a novice approach you asking for advice. What is the 2 moste important things you would tell him to look out for / do when starting as novice/newby. Let limit (if you want) the advice to two items per member, and try not to repeat what was already said. Lets then see if we can 'agree to disagree' on the maybe 10 most important things to look out for/do, and perhaps we would be 'indirectly' reminding ourself of things we know, but forgot. My advice would be: 1-Never over-populate your loft 2-Write down day-by-day what you do with birds, and also what you give them, thus keep record.
soapy Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 no 1 is acat box no 2 is a pair of springer traps there is more i could say but you limited us to two 2
Guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 youve mentioned already one of the best (overcrowding) so my first would be routine. and the second good birds from one scource. thats the advice i would give a novice ,(thats also from experience). andy.
owen101 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 my first would be to find a system that suits the person my sedond would be find the best food and dont over-feed
Old Pied Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Andy I agree about good birds, FROM ONE PERSON, as then the novice can also obtain the training program on which those birds perform from the same flyer, and saves alot of time and money by not having to figure it out himself. Hi Soapy I suggested only two as it must be the most important, and that way we can compile 'golden rules' and not just 'rules. You can mention more, was just a suggestion to mention only 2. What is acat box (i am in South Africa, dont know the term/product?) Regards, Old Pied
Old Pied Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Posted January 19, 2010 Hi owen Can we perhaps combine your 'rule' (find a system that suits the person) with Andys rule that novice should obtain birds from one person. Perhaps we can say that a novice must look for fancier whose system will suit him/her (time and money), and if this person is racing well, one should 'earmark' such a person to obtain round of youngsters from? Just a suggestion
Guest IB Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 For tameness, design your loft so that there are no big open spaces within it. Get the birds to walk between sections, rather than fly (they can fly all they like outside it). Have no bird perched higher than your own eye-level, and don't have room above your head that they can fly up and into, to avoid you.. Get the birds confident in you. Spend a lot of time with them. Move slowly when amongst them. Speak to them, get them used to you and your voice.
pjc Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 1, find out who best flyer is in your area and approach them for help and advice (mentor) 2, spend as much time with your birds as you can, watch them, learn there habits and what makes them tick.
bewted Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 plenty of good ventilation and good dry loft for health wise to start !
BLACK W F Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 no1 watch out for the rip off merchants no2 always look after your mates
Old Pied Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Black w f Agree, we forget no.2 so easy during 'combat'
Guest bakes Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 good dry ventilated loft go to the local flyers that have achieved the distances you intend to race and get as close to the birds as you can afford they might even gift you birds from the stock you are after keep to a rutein dont over feed never over crowd never treat blind if there somethink wrong find out whats going wrong then treat the problem all the best
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 thats more than to bakes lol
Guest paulrstokes Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 Be Very Tough, do not keep rubbish Do not treat at the drop of a hat, allow them to build up immunity.
Skull Lofts Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 1, find out who best flyer is in your area and approach them for help and advice (mentor) 2, spend as much time with your birds as you can, watch them, learn there habits and what makes them tick. Sound advice! Only problem with point 1 is that here in South Africa they cant be trusted, as you are competition, which is fierce! 1.I would rather say the best flyer who you wont compete against in another area. 2.Try and keep young birds of the same age in one loft. Skull
swede Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 :)good advice bakes also keep it simple; swede
blackdog Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 dont chop and change keep things simple
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 enjoy your birds , and dont put to much pressure on your self to win thats my advice
Guest strapper Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 1, keep an open mind 2,dont have a closed mind
BLACK W F Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 OH ALSO FOR GOT DONT SUPPORT LIVERPOOL THEY LOSERS
Guest stb- Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 and always try and fly on the east coast much easier ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 and always try and fly on the east coast much easier ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lol.. ;D ;D ;D
BLACK W F Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 and always try and fly on the east coast much easier ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OR SOMEWHERE NEAR LIKE KIRKINTLICK ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
rasbull Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 My first tip would be Quality, not Quantity. My second would be weed out any weaklings at the first sign they are lacking something!
gorsy bank lofts Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 use plain water and keep a ferret
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