swab testing

[traynor]

i want to get my birds swab tested, can any one recommend a place? thanks

[nogin]

i want to get my birds swab tested, can any one recommend a place? thanks

 

UK ANIMAL HEALTH ;D

[traynor]

thanks

[fred x]

Yes.  Manor Court Veterinary Centre

        Church Street

        Tarvin

        Chester  CH3 8EB

        

        Tele: 01829 740216                       He will send you a Test kit        You get a report first by E-Mail

                                                            Just had my birds done Dropping & Swob test     £17.34

 

                                                                 Give him a call.

 

 

                                                        

 

[Guest Taylors Choice]

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/163914_dropping&&swab_testing_kit.php test results phoned to you the same day as samples are recieved.

[Guest]

http://www.manorcourtvets.co.uk/pigeonhomepage.htm

[OLDYELLOW]

northern hygene   complete test £30 sent in post each swab come with soup solution to keep the bacteria alive and there a Defra approved vets and do tests for the goverment on all animals and birds

Northern Hygiene Laboratories

Thorpe House

Kelleythorpe Estate

Driffield

East Yorkshire

Y025 9DJ

 

 

Tel: 01377 241945

Fax: 01377 241910

 

[traynor]

thanks everyone

[pjc]

This might sound a daft comment but how can somebody give swab results acuratly the same day as swabs are recieved?

Swabs are for virul infections and virus's have to be cultivated to identify what they are and this takes days!

 

Phil

[OLDYELLOW]

takes a week to get a decent amount of bacterial growth and 2 weeks to get a clear count unless there is an issue with the birds health and the bacteria multiplys quicker , but your right swabs cant give results straight away , dropping samples can tho  

[Guest Taylors Choice]

The manufacturer states "Under normal circumstances as soon as we recieve your samples an analytical print out of the results will be sent out within 72 hours, ALL results are telephoned on day the sample is received"

[OLDYELLOW]

The manufacturer states "Under normal circumstances as soon as we recieve your samples an analytical print out of the results will be sent out within 72 hours, ALL results are telephoned on day the sample is received"

 

the swabs will be in what my vets call a soup solution what this is is a simple sugar / glugose solution the reason for this is bacteria outside the gut and nothing to feed on will simply die the sugar helps them to multiple and would be multiplying for 24 hours in the post then 72 hours after they will be able to make a result but i prefer to have them run the test longer to see how the bacterias are growing , which is a more acurate test

[Guest IB]

I have only swab tested once, with Animal Health. There was a gel in the bottom of the tube, and must admit, thought it was a preservative of some sort.

 

I don't think it could be used for viral check as these live within the cell. You swab stuff 'on the outside' from the mucous lining - bacteria, etc.

[DJ]

i had a swab and droppings test done with animal health as well ib and the results came back as a bacterial infection  i know other fanciers and they also used animal health and their test results were bacterial infection as well?  has anyone else on here used animal health and got the same test results?   debbie

[OLDYELLOW]

I've only ever used Northern Hygene when you find a good one you dont change , all micro bacteria get tested against meds and the positive results are used to treat cant get better than treating with something that works 9/10 they say you can buy it or they are happy to supply it for you if prescription only  

[johnny11]

Hi

 

For individual recognition of bacteria it will take at least 48 hours, but it is quite easy to look at a swab or droppings and see if there is a problem by shear numbers alone, and the types.

 

Identification of the bacteria, but to say you have a bacterial infection is quite plausible

[OLDYELLOW]

white blood cells on the swab would indicate bacterial infection and the white cells would be produced to fight the infection , but not knowing which spetrum specific antibiotic ectra to treat it with is a result thats worthless without the follow up tests on what to treat it with

[Guest IB]

i had a swab and droppings test done with animal health as well ib and the results came back as a bacterial infection  i know other fanciers and they also used animal health and their test results were bacterial infection as well?  has anyone else on here used animal health and got the same test results?   debbie

 

Know what you are saying, Debbie. Touch of respiratory (down to heavy bacterial infection) and a touch of cocci.  7 days treatment for respiratory, followed by 2 for cocci. This was 31st May 2007 in midst of OB racing, and I laid birds off for 2 weeks for the course. The bottles were a clear liquid, and didn't tell you what was in them.

 

Remember after the phone call, standing at back door watching my birds exercising (dots in the sky) wondering how can they do that if they've got respiratory?

 

You dont expect to pay £12.50 for test and £50 for meds, and be left wondering ??????

 

Yet I've often wondered if the swab picked up friendly bacteria? Was still on probiotic yoghurt in those days, 3 days a week, once a month. They were given it on 22nd May 2007. And 10 April 2007 prior to that. Have since learned there's lactobacteria in all the mucous membranes, including 'nose' and 'mouth'. Did I pay to kill 'friendly' bacteria? How could you tell the difference through a microscope?

 

 

[Guest IB]

white blood cells on the swab would indicate bacterial infection and the white cells would be produced to fight the infection , but not knowing which spetrum specific antibiotic ectra to treat it with is a result thats worthless without the follow up tests on what to treat it with

 

Mark, I'd white blood cells in my swab sample (see my reply to Debbie). I was told much the same too their presence 'usually indicates infection'. But there are lots of different types of 'white blood cell' and some of them you would expect to find in the mucous membranes because they are front-line defence - they patrol them 'looking' for pathogens. Very minimum the test result would need to tell you is the name. Just as I said before, all very well saying heavy bacterial 'infection' - presence isn't necessarily always infection, surely.