Guest madpup Posted February 8, 2010 Report Posted February 8, 2010 The problem for you in making your decision, whether or not to vaccinate, is the month recovery time you need to give your birds to get over the vaccination. After useing either Baytril or Amoxiciline you birds will be very suceptable to yeast infections. I have mentioned this because, if you don't know, you can ruin your racing season before you start. After taking all this into account, if you can deal with the stuation, vaccination is always the best protection for your birds. And your own peace of mind for that matter. A little tip that might help you, give your birds Aquatious Iodine in the water as a preventitive for yeast. About 5ml to the gallon will be fine. A lot of Vets like to prescribe Nystatin, a human based product, but the iodine will be better and cheaper. It is also known as Lugols Iodine. A lot of successful Fanciers use it in either in their tonic concoctions or as an additive to the drinking water on a weekly basis. See Dave Allen's Tonic for example!! Owen didint know about Iodine was a preventitive for yeast, if the bird have yeast will this cure them?
Guest Owen Posted February 8, 2010 Report Posted February 8, 2010 madpup iodine is the basic ingredient in a lot of the distinfectants. Especially the viricidal ones. These are the ones used in the foot and mouth outbreaks and such like. One drop of iodine will kill a heck of a lot of bugs and, yeast being a living organism, can not handle exposure to iodine. It is worth remembering that it is very strong so be careful not to overdose. Just for the record, fresh garlic is also something that yeast does not like too much. Fanciers who use it regularly find it helps with worms and other infections as well.
Guest madpup Posted February 8, 2010 Report Posted February 8, 2010 madpup iodine is the basic ingredient in a lot of the distinfectants. Especially the viricidal ones. These are the ones used in the foot and mouth outbreaks and such like. One drop of iodine will kill a heck of a lot of bugs and, yeast being a living organism, can not handle exposure to iodine. It is worth remembering that it is very strong so be careful not to overdose. Just for the record, fresh garlic is also something that yeast does not like too much. Fanciers who use it regularly find it helps with worms and other infections as well. Cheers for that owen , I use Gem impact which is iodine and Vit B12 once a week this should help then
swede Posted February 8, 2010 Report Posted February 8, 2010 enrofloxin is baytril 10`tenpercent; 1ml per ltr liquid very dangerus drug if not uesd properly jenraly uesd as last resort; if you want to kill birds use only after you consult a vet; kills all good bacteria ; but good if uesdproperly the last lot sold on ebay was out of date be carfull ; swede
Guest Owen Posted February 8, 2010 Report Posted February 8, 2010 Nice one Swede. Fanciers need to know this type of information. I agree with you, Baytril and Baytril like drugs have to be used with great care and only if you have a serious disease to deal with. This stuff can have a devastating effect on the pigeon and goodness knows what might happen if you use stuff that has been tampered with or out of date. Vets may be greedy and some are down right awful but it is safer to try to find one you can trust and allow him to advise you, than mess about with strong drugs from unreliable sources. But then, there are plenty messing about with strong drugs in Britain today. Crackers or what?
me Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 Fanciers have used it and ruined the immune systems of the birds. It is worth you knowing that this drug starts to deteriate from the time you break the seal and let air into it. It takes about two weeks for it to be similar to water. No one using this drug correctly and responsibly would damage a birds immune system. The second point quoted is absolute nonsense, it is not that long ago that vet medicines had no use by dates whatsoever.
ch pied Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 No one using this drug correctly and responsibly would damage a birds immune system. The second point quoted is absolute nonsense, it is not that long ago that vet medicines had no use by dates whatsoever. you are so correct , about the exp date's
holmsidelofts Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 the reason i wouldnt buy from anyone other than a vet is that you dont know what you are getting, its easy to label a product with any name, it could contain any product, just because its white powder or a liquid it doesnt tell you anything of its content, you only have to read all the horror stories about drug dealers adding lost of horrible stuff to there rubbish. i would rather go to a professional that way you know that you are getting the correct product, and giving the correct dose for the correct illness. Jas.
me Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 the reason i wouldnt buy from anyone other than a vet is that you dont know what you are getting, its easy to label a product with any name, it could contain any product, just because its white powder or a liquid it doesnt tell you anything of its content, you only have to read all the horror stories about drug dealers adding lost of horrible stuff to there rubbish. i would rather go to a professional that way you know that you are getting the correct product, and giving the correct dose for the correct illness. Jas. sound advice as far as i am concerned.
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