chlymidia

[ChrisMaidment08]

yes i agree but by time the lab has done its job the vets told you its cost you arm and leg as it does with my dogs the bird aint worth saving as its worse i use things which hundreds use and will continue to plenty have said god you cant use that now they do amazeing really

[walkergeoffrey@ymail.com]

ive noticed a light fur grows on the dropings after a day

 

:-/

[ChrisMaidment08]

and do you know why antibiotics have to be used its because in humans clm affects tubes making women infertile thats all

[DOVEScot]

Chris i value your input , all im trying to say inlaymens terms is this: one any disease firstly has to be identified secondly it needs to be treated with something thats going to work  and the only way to do this is to grow the bacteria in a lab in a petri dish then the bacterias have to be tested against different antibiotics ectra to see which one works , use the wrong one you'l have no cure , infact the problem becomes worse then the birds immune system collapses as healthy bacteria have been destroyed and the active pathogen / bacteria has a free run .

 

Spot on, but this guy seems to know what he is looking for, maybe had a test or had it before and Vets are too dear :-/

 

does anyone know where i can get some doxicyclone for pigeon chlymidia

either by mail order or a shop in london   vic

 

Chlamydia is a bacteria;

 

Doxycycline is the way to go for Chlamydia in pigeons. For what it is worth.

 

[walkergeoffrey@ymail.com]

nystatin is good for thrush and bacteriel problems get for pennies if you go to spain from the chemist  also permangermate of potash kills nasties give this first drink after the race 8)

[DOVEScot]

nystatin is good for thrush and bacteriel problems get for pennies if you go to spain from the chemist  also permangermate of potash kills nasties give this first drink after the race 8)

 

Did you mean permanganate of potash and does it cure Chlamydia

[frank1]

tylan mixed with terramycin is wot you will get of the vet if he test possitive for chlymidia

swab and blood test for chlymidia

dont treat blind its a waist of time a pigeon just doesnt die it has to have something really

wrong with it

chlymidia wont kill your birds unless its highly infected

[walkergeoffrey@ymail.com]

the best natural  remedy for the birds is nettles when things arnt right put them on this for 3 to5 days cleans the blood  some thing in the sting and lots of iron when i first started  25 years ago 87 year old fancier told told me of a decease with pigs incurable at the time like anthrass he was a young en at the time his dad was a farmer he fed the pigs nothing but nettles for 2weeks and they pulled through get in touch if u want to know how its made

[walkergeoffrey@ymail.com]

i didnt say permangermate of potash cures deceases it can keep them at bay if you want to pay top prices for products that cost 10 times as much this costs  nothing trust meit doesnt cure it will stop some thing getting a hold give this first drink from race then give nettles

[allenyeates]

Regular garlic in water and CIDER VINIGAR (5ml to2.5 litres) and you,ll see no fungal infections in pigeons /dogs/ ferrets or pheasants come to that. Down here its Scats but any area agricultural traders is the cheapest place to get it.(look in equestrian isle). As for the garlic.... stamp on a whole BULB put this in a PLASTIC (not metal) bucket and fill to the top with water and leave overnight. Use next day to fill your drinkers( Lidel is cheapest for garlic). you,ll be supprised by the results to droppings or down fall if used 2or 3 days per week.

[Lennut Tar]

 

ASK THE WIFE SAPPER

 

;D ;D ;D "LOL" 10 out of 10, for that one Rembrant. Wise words ???????, one could say.

Enjoy.

 

 

[Larry Lucas]

ok how do you diagnose cylamidia in pigeons what are the symptoms ? and could you be treating for the wrong thing ? and do other pathogens and microbaterial infections have a similar effect ? the answer is this yes several things could have the same effect and you could be doing far more damage by blind treating and giving the wrong medications for the wrong jobs and thus making the birds more susceptible to further outbreaks of diseases by treating wrongly then you will have the same problem as the pop group The Verve ~ the drugs dont work

 

As an outsider looking in, this post has wisdom. It is far better to get a diagnosis from a qualified Vet or lab. Otherwise, it is at best an educated guess. Costs a little more, but worth every penny.

[OLDYELLOW]

 

As an outsider looking in, this post has wisdom. It is far better to get a diagnosis from a qualified Vet or lab. Otherwise, it is at best an educated guess. Costs a little more, but worth every penny.

 

The health of our pigeons ? priceless . Treating blind for disease will end up with a empty pocket and a heavy heart and birds with no immunity that pick up every thing going in the basket . A trip to the vet will in the long run will be cheaper as you will arrive at the cause of an illness and whats effective for that illness , you only pay for what you need and not what you dont

[Guest IB]

 

The health of our pigeons ? priceless . Treating blind for disease will end up with a empty pocket and a heavy heart and birds with no immunity that pick up every thing going in the basket . A trip to the vet will in the long run will be cheaper as you will arrive at the cause of an illness and whats effective for that illness , you only pay for what you need and not what you dont

 

Agree 100%. Would like to add that the vet will also tell you the likely source of your birds illness, and what to do now & in the future to prevent it happening again.

 

 

[Guest IB]

 

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_10.pdf

 

Chlamydiosis was first recognized as an infectious disease affecting parrots, parakeets, and humans involved in the international parrot trade in the late l920s to l930s.

 

Two different species of the same bacterium. Like I said, respiratory in birds, as above, and the most common Sexually Transmitted Disease in humans, as per link below, neither of which have anything to do with Thrush / Candida, which was the point of my post:

 

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068702

 

 

[vics1950]

firstly let me thank you for your replys some constructive and some otherwise

i do not race pigeons and do not kill them,  if they are not too good at racing.

neither would i breed young for the specific purpose of racing the parents home to feed it, then kill it once it has done its job.

i know that not all people that race do this....just most.

i have four pigeons that i rescued from being killed by developers and as they were very young. spent 6 weeks or more feeding before putting them in a loft in my garden.

i did race pigeons briefly 25 years ago.

the pigeon that is not well has a respiratory pathogen. and rattles when it breathes

at first when i noticed it it was not too well, i seperated it from the others and noticed it had white down its throat. i took this as canker and treated with spartrix. the pigeon perked up but the breathing was still rattled. not wishing to spend money at vets.because sadly all you get is a big bill

i read on the net symptoms and causes and through self diagnosis etc i thought it sounded like chlymidiosis. this is a form of chlymidia that causes respiratory problems...henceforth i was told doxicycline was what i needed to administer. SO all you bird lovers what i was hoping for was some good advice from others that know far more than me.........and asking the wife cant do much good! ive never known a woman who knows how to do anything other than spend money.....vic  

        

    

 

[OLDYELLOW]

if it respirity then surely the loft design / ventilation needs addressing to prevent further out breaks , then it needs diagnosing but due to the throat been white i would suggest that its infected and a course of antibiotics would be needed but they would also need to be spectrum specific to the bacteria pathogen thats present.

[ch pied]

firstly let me thank you for your replys some constructive and some otherwise

i do not race pigeons and do not kill them,  if they are not too good at racing.

neither would i breed young for the specific purpose of racing the parents home to feed it, then kill it once it has done its job.

i know that not all people that race do this....just most.

i have four pigeons that i rescued from being killed by developers and as they were very young. spent 6 weeks or more feeding before putting them in a loft in my garden.

i did race pigeons briefly 25 years ago.

the pigeon that is not well has a respiratory pathogen. and rattles when it breathes

at first when i noticed it it was not too well, i seperated it from the others and noticed it had white down its throat. i took this as canker and treated with spartrix. the pigeon perked up but the breathing was still rattled. not wishing to spend money at vets.because sadly all you get is a big bill

i read on the net symptoms and causes and through self diagnosis etc i thought it sounded like chlymidiosis. this is a form of chlymidia that causes respiratory problems...henceforth i was told doxicycline was what i needed to administer. SO all you bird lovers what i was hoping for was some good advice from others that know far more than me.........and asking the wife cant do much good! ive never known a woman who knows how to do anything other than spend money.....vic  

        

    

you ask for advice , then you attack the folk that try to help you , WHY ?

 

 

[vics1950]

i would not dream of attacking anyone most of all anyone that i asked for advice...however you will have to define what part of my mail you regard as an attack. upon doing so i will answer your reply   vic

ps and i thank you for your comments on the illness and treatment.

 

[ch pied]

i would not dream of attacking anyone most of all anyone that i asked for advice...however you will have to define what part of my mail you regard as an attack. upon doing so i will answer your reply   vic

ps and i thank you for your comments on the illness and treatment.

ref , killing pigeon's , the first part of your post , you asked for advice , it is given , then you go off on some crusade ,

 

 

[vics1950]

ok now that i am aware of what you mean i shall explain

firstly i do not agree with killing pigeons for any reason other than humane ones.

when i raced i would not dream of it...although i am not in any way having a crusade against  anyone doing so.

the reason i wrote about the killing of pigeons was in reference to some fanciers who replied to my post  portraying that the most important thing with pigeons was to keep them fit and  healthy.

it seems hypocritical to me to ...on the one hand be concerned about having strong healthy birds.

yet on the other hand to kill whatever birds  for whatever reasons.    the best pigeon i ever raced was given to me by someone who bred it just for widowwood, and had no intention of keeping it

i am against the killing of any animal or bird...i am also non religeous...however i would not dream of starting any crusade against any group  of peoples who act or think different than i. and again i thank you and all the others for the advice   vic

 

 

[mushroom]

Sometimes at this time of year I occasionaly hear some of my birds rattling in the throat. It is usally because they have been kept in whilst in the big moult and dropping flights 7 to 10. The sudden change in their exercise regime and a full hopper 24/7 makes them fat, which as any fat person, like me, will tell you,impairs your breathing. so dont rush to the medicine  cabinet just yet!

[DOVEScot]

 

Two different species of the same bacterium. Like I said, respiratory in birds, as above, and the most common Sexually Transmitted Disease in humans, as per link below, neither of which have anything to do with Thrush / Candida, which was the point of my post:

 

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068702

 

 

If humans can catch it of the birds, I hope by breathing in the bacteria and not by sexual contact, then they must be the same  :-/

I agree that canesten is for thrush and candida

 

[frank1]

when humans catch chlymidia of the birds it is a chest infection humans get

the only way to get chlymidia is through sexual intercourse

or of birds witch is a chest infection

[DOVEScot]

when humans catch chlymidia of the birds it is a chest infection humans get

the only way to get chlymidia is through sexual intercourse

or of birds witch is a chest infection

 

So therefore it is not just in the sex organs that humans can have chlymidia :-/