chlymidia

[ch pied]

Chlamydia is a bacteria; candida as well as thrush are  fungi; canker is protozoal. I understand Canniston cream is a feminine hygiene product for yeast infection with an active ingredient of Clotrimazole: an antifungal/yeast agent that works against candida, not Chlamydia.  Metronidazole is also used for women's yeast infections, but it is also antiprotozoal as well -- metronidazole is commonly used to treat pigeons for canker. Canniston might be effective for thrush, but as a cream that has other ingredients might not be something you want to squeeze down a pigeon's throat.  Neither Clotrimazole nor Metronidazole are effective against Chlamydia in pigeons.

 

Doxycycline is the way to go for Chlamydia in pigeons. For what it is worth.

agreed , if blind treating an equivelant amount of ridsol may not be a bad idea , as have found chlamydia & tricho go hand in hand in most case's , when i have done  swabs allway's found tricho count on the upper side , which one of the two is the trigger , not sure on that

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

and Canniston cream is for EXTERNAL USE ONLY

 

try telling birds when it clears them up as it does

[ChrisMaidment08]

what honestly makes me wonder is how half of members fly with vet this vet that do you try anything apart from vets

[ChrisMaidment08]

take multi vits how much you pay i pay 3 quid for enough for year

[DOVEScot]

The treatment of chlamydia in humans is simple and effective once the infection has been diagnosed, consisting of a short course of antibiotic tablets.

 

Re pigeons

http://www.isrvma.org/article/54_4_1.htm

 

http://www.springerlink.com/content/n446p17h16031u12/

 

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_10.pdf

 

[OLDYELLOW]

what honestly makes me wonder is how half of members fly with vet this vet that do you try anything apart from vets

 

if i went out bought every thinkable cure for this and that 1 i would spend a small fortune on things i dint need nor my birds need , 2 i would compromise the immunity i have built up in my flock , 3 i could make the situation far worse by giving non sutible antibiotics when there not spectrum specific , some antibotics can accelerate hostile infections by targeting the wrong bacterias duh   :D :D ??)

[ChrisMaidment08]

they can but over years i have used cannistan with no effect on birds other than cure them

[ChrisMaidment08]

sorry old fellow for got youer last bit    duh to you to

[Guest IB]

I think its too easy to get things mixed up.  

 

Thread starts with a question on Chlamydia and folks offer advice on Candida. Then when the penny drops, on comes advice for Human Clamydia which is a disease of their reproductive tracts, while Chlamydia in pigeons is a respiratory illness.

 

I'm thankful for two things:  

 

(1) I've never seen any of the stuff discussed on this Site in my pigeons and (2) I've a good avian vet close by if anything of these ilks ever pops up - but then I do my damndest to make sure it never does.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

they can but over years i have used cannistan with no effect on birds other than cure them

 

and on a autopsys there were not internal damage after this cure ???? the bird may not be displaying any symptoms but damage may of occured if it says on the tube to be used externaly there has to be a reason behind it

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

if i went out bought every thinkable cure for this and that 1 i would spend a small fortune on things i dint need nor my birds need , 2 i would compromise the immunity i have built up in my flock , 3 i could make the situation far worse by giving non sutible antibiotics when there not spectrum specific , some antibotics can accelerate hostile infections by targeting the wrong bacterias duh   :D :D ??)

hope youer reading last post ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[sammy]

 

put on cotton bud they swab inside mouth do not use to much

 

try some hemmaroid cream for the back end as well while yir at it may have piles  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ChrisMaidment08]

yes there is its called itchyness i have tablets which say do not take or will kill you why am i takeing them then. so really whats what unless you try they have cannistan tablet you take by mouth      

[OLDYELLOW]

im sure a loaded gun when the safetys off would cure an headache for good but i wouldnt use it

[ChrisMaidment08]

now youer going over top

[DOVEScot]

im sure a loaded gun when the safetys off would cure an headache for good but i wouldnt use it

 

Especially if you shoot yourself in the foot ;D ;D ;D

[ChrisMaidment08]

well try then come back and give youer opinion

[DOVEScot]

well try then come back and give youer opinion

 

Done it loads of times, it did stop me thinking about my sore head and chlymidia ;D ;D ;D

[just ask me]

no natural cures fot this one chris no

[OLDYELLOW]

ok how do you diagnose cylamidia in pigeons what are the symptoms ? and could you be treating for the wrong thing ? and do other pathogens and microbaterial infections have a similar effect ? the answer is this yes several things could have the same effect and you could be doing far more damage by blind treating and giving the wrong medications for the wrong jobs and thus making the birds more susceptible to further outbreaks of diseases by treating wrongly then you will have the same problem as the pop group The Verve ~ the drugs dont work

[ChrisMaidment08]

you know dove you need serious help mate thought i was nuts now i think im sane

[ChrisMaidment08]

ok how do you diagnose cylamidia in pigeons what are the symptoms ? and could you be treating for the wrong thing ? and do other pathogens and microbaterial infections have a similar effect ? the answer is this yes several things could have the same effect and you could be doing far more damage by blind treating and giving the wrong medications for the wrong jobs and thus making the birds more susceptible to further outbreaks of diseases by treating wrongly then you will have the same problem as the pop group The Verve ~ the drugs dont work

im not going to talk to you when you are in this frame of mind as im wrong youer right so i will use things i do and you pay vet but if you have brotherinlaw who is vetex and he   says lots of things then i willl listen????

 

[DOVEScot]

you know dove you need serious help mate thought i was nuts now i think im sane

 

Don't worry about me I am weel and truly certified by specialists in many fields

[DOVEScot]

I think its too easy to get things mixed up.  

 

Thread starts with a question on Chlamydia and folks offer advice on Candida. Then when the penny drops, on comes advice for Human Clamydia which is a disease of their reproductive tracts, while Chlamydia in pigeons is a respiratory illness.

 

I'm thankful for two things:  

 

(1) I've never seen any of the stuff discussed on this Site in my pigeons and (2) I've a good avian vet close by if anything of these ilks ever pops up - but then I do my damndest to make sure it never does.

 

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_10.pdf

 

Chlamydiosis refers to an infection with organisms of the genus Chlamydia sp., which are bacteria that live within animal cells. Chlamydia psittaci is the species generally associated with this disease in birds. The severity of the disease differs by the strain of C. psittaci and the susceptibility of different species of birds. As a result, chlamydiosis may range from an inapparent infection to a severe disease with high mortality. The organism is excreted in the feces and nasal discharges of infected birds and can remain infective for several months. Infection commonly occurs from inhaling the bacteria in airborne particles from feces or respiratory exudates. Because of the organism’s resistance to drying, infected bird feces at roosts are especially hazardous.

Species Affected

Chlamydiosis was first recognized as an infectious disease affecting parrots, parakeets, and humans involved in the international parrot trade in the late l920s to l930s. Chlamydiosis

has since become known as a serious disease of domestic turkeys in the United States, of domestic ducks and geese in central Europe, and as a common infection of domestic

and feral pigeons worldwide. The feral city pigeon is the most common carrier of Chlamydia sp. within the United States.

Chlamydial infections have been reported from at least 159 species of wild birds in 20 orders, but most isolations have been made from six groups of birds (Figure 10.1). Psittacine

birds such as parakeets, parrots, macaws, and cockatiels are most commonly identified with this disease, while among other caged birds Chlamydia sp. occurs most frequently in pigeons, doves, and mynahs. Waterfowl, herons, and pigeons are the most commonly infected wild birds in North America (Figure 10.2). Chlamydiosis also occasionally

infects gulls and terns, shorebirds, songbirds, and uplandgamebirds.

Distribution

Among free-living birds, avian chlamydiosis has been found worldwide in the feral pigeon, in gulls and fulmars on islands of coastal Great Britain, in waterfowl and shorebirdsin the Caspian Sea, and in herons, waterfowl, gulls, and doves in the United States. Infected parrots and parakeets have been found throughout the tropics and Australia.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

Chris i value your input , all im trying to say inlaymens terms is this: one any disease firstly has to be identified secondly it needs to be treated with something thats going to work  and the only way to do this is to grow the bacteria in a lab in a petri dish then the bacterias have to be tested against different antibiotics ectra to see which one works , use the wrong one you'l have no cure , infact the problem becomes worse then the birds immune system collapses as healthy bacteria have been destroyed and the active pathogen / bacteria has a free run .