pigeon cant eat

[snowy]

since pairing up, i have this one troublesome cock that flys on the nest box below his & fights the cock & hen inside & this pair is on eggs, mr troubles wife has just laid her first egg & he is still causing trouble, real bad fighting this cock & hen below! this morning i put mr trouble in a spare nest box on his own, while observing the rest, the cock below i noticed him having trouble picking food up, kept dropping it couldnt get it in his mouth? > this cock is (mr westy) WOE

took a good look at him gently opened his beak & there was a bit of sticky clear saliva so i dipped his beak in a bit of water & its gone, so i put some small grains in his box in a gallipot,

it looks to me as mr trouble has gotton hold of him & damaged his lower beak or jaw, looks a bit pale & sore the way he is acting,

any thing i should do? or just keep a close eye on him?

any advice appreciated

[Guest]

Maybe bird has taken a tanking, Snowy, feeling a bit down?

 

Close up the disputed box. Only open it at changeover. Put a jar of water in there for the sitting birds.

 

Have a good think about Mr Nasty. Would suggest there's no place for a bird like that in your loft.

 

 

 

 

[snowy]

cheers bruno, i let them take it in turns to be out to day, but as i locked up mr & mrs westy safely on their eggs, 1 is damaged but are going to float eggs under tomorrow anyway,

when mr nasty was let out, he flew straight to westys box like he was gagging for a fight, its like he has really took a spite to this pair?

never knew a pigeon could do this to another? he is real bad

regards

[andy]

MAYBE MR NASTY SHOULD BE IN THE BIG LOFT IN THE SKY!!!!

[snowy]

i cant do that he is an 05 bird which parents, grand parents & great grand parents are proven winners, i am new to the sport & was gifted this by a kind member of this forum,

thanks

[snowy]

also he has a bruise like black mark on one side of his normally pink/white beak

[Guest]

if he keep fighting, why can't you lock him and the hen up for a few days?

[snowy]

i have done now speight, but it was a bit late

[Guest]

snowy,

 

is your cock is newest into the lofts and does he know which one is his nest box ?

 

Hope you sorting him out...

[snowy]

actually speight he was last in the breeding section, but he does know which is his box.

cheers mate.

[Guest]

Two points Snowy: (1) Noticed my youngsters ganging up on my near whites when they were first shifted. Posted that warning elsewhere... white is not a normal colour and attracts attention. (2) You'll need eyes in the back of your head; thought I'd cured a similar problem, turned me back on them for 5 mins and they were both stood over bowl and youngster, giving it laldy, blood splashed over box walls, youngster scalped at base of skull, and puncture wounds on side.  

 

Maybe a lock-up job then for both pairs?

 

Remember the fighting thing is lifting the opponent using head and beak and ejecting them from perch / box. No wonder the bird's bruised.  ;D

[jimmy white]

keep mr nasty locked in his box untill the other cock regains his confidence, hes obviosly had the stuffing knocked out of him, i would even keep mr nasty locked in till his ybs hatch, he may think twice when hes feeding big ybs him self. its very common for yearlings to try and take two boxes, but they sort themself out eventually

[jimmy white]

hope mr westy has picked up a bit

[snowy]

thanks bruno & jim,

update:

mr nasty is now in other section now, as his missis has laid her 2nd egg this morning , so fostered them under poor mr & mrs westy, they have taken to them no probs, but mr westy is still a bit rough & im still a bit worried bout him, but he is eating a bit, & drinking a bit , but not very much :-/

so just carry on keeping a CLOSE eye on him, & already has started gaining a bit of confidence,

BUT!

see next post

[snowy]

another pair has laid their first egg this morning, got home from work & martin(westy) noticed an egg shell on loft floor, looked in the pairs bowl & egg yolk in bowl, so parents must have broken egg by accident & automaticly threw the shell out of box, as they do, so hope the next egg is ok, its the first year for the cock of this pair & i know sometimes they can be a bit clumsey? any advice appreciated

[Guest]

One thing I would say is dont let them have a bath while on the eggs, because the damp feathers stick to the eggs and then when they get up they drag the egg with then.

[schouwman71]

give mr nasty a slap urself ive done that with many cocks like him and somethink else hitting the harder than they can give usually sorts them.(i dont mean throw him or being too heavy) just give it a slight back hander,believe me it does work.

[Guest]

This is going to sound extreme but what I do if there is a cock that keeps fighting, is to get a bit of rigid wire and tie his legs apart about 5cm (make sure you put something round the leg so the wire doesn't dig in) and let him go in his box. If you watch a pigeon fighting he needs to have his legs spread out to balance, this way he cant and he soon realises he cant fight anymore, 100% fullproof.

[snowy]

cheers all, he is picking up a bit, not much but eating a bit more now,

thanks all

[jimmy white]

glad to hear hes a lot better ,its a good sign hes eating more, cheers  jimmy

[snowy]

cheers jim, hes starting to eat the big grains now, good job, as he is fostering

"SIR COLINS" great grand children!  all the best,  ;D

snowy & westy

[jimmy white]

good news snowy , best of luck