best breeds

[Guest southern and mason]

hi all i would  like to  ask you  all what you  think the best breeds are  for sprint mid and distance racing. thanks  all james

[Beanz]

Would say Van Reets for sprinting and Jan Ardens for distance.

 

 

                                         Paul

[blaz]

van reets are good sprint middle distance birds .jan aardens are very good distance but i think they take a while to mature be at their best. a couple of my mates are doing ok with Roland jancens for sprints.

[Guest Owen]

Why can'nt you write in English? By the time I figured out what you were saying, I had lost interest.

[john@formula 1 lofts]

Sprint - SVR

Middle - Gabys

Long - Biss

 

Ron Williamson birds seem to do sprint - middle distance very well just depends how you feed them. i have not pushed them past 300 miles yet but think i will get them out to 500 without any probs

[vanreets]

sprint  van reets all the way ;) ;) :X :X :X :X

[vanreets]

Why can'nt you write in English? By the time I figured out what you were saying, I had lost interest.

 

mate most peaple read it fine

[pigeon123]

As long as they win Im not worried what breed they are as pure this family and pure that family only happens in this country!.

[BLACK W F]

the ones that win

[Guest spin cycle]

IM(humble)O ..crossbreds...hybrid vigour. people are obsessed with keeping their strains 'pure'...but what do continentals do ? ...buy good birds cross/blend together and re-brand as their own.

[vanreets]

IM(humble)O ..crossbreds...hybrid vigour. people are obsessed with keeping their strains 'pure'...but what do continentals do ? ...buy good birds cross/blend together and re-brand as their own.

 

never though of that :)

[vanreets]

the ones that win

 

mine then   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[BLACK W F]

there is only 2 types  weather they be sprint middle or dist    the ones that score the ones that breed them the rest eat corn and crap and we all got plenty of that kind

[vanreets]

there is only 2 types  weather they be sprint middle or dist    the ones that score the ones that breed them the rest eat corn and crap and we all got plenty of that kind

 

 

how far is middle disance may i ask

[john@formula 1 lofts]

I would say 200- 400 miles

[vanreets]

I would say 200- 400 miles

 

cool so anythink up too 200 is sprint

[Guest youngzimmy]

 

SOONTJENS AND TOURNIER I THINK

[Guest stevie-b]

van loons but won from 500 miles wi a svr so i think feeding is important

[waltzer]

winners

[kraftykev]

my kirkpatricks for all distances

 

all the best

 

Kevin

[Guest southern and mason]

a lot of  replies  thanks  all  

[flyingteessider]

Krafty kev i totaly agree kirkys rule bring on the bad weather

[Guest Owen]

The best birds are birds bred from winning parents. "Strain" or "Breed" means nothing, except perhaps as a starting point for your selection. If you breed from your winners you will automatically select for the type of racing you are involved in.

In America at Spring Hill, Florida, they have selected from mainly young bird winners. The result is that they now have superb birds that mature much faster than normal here in Britain. The young bird specialists on the Continent have done much the same.

Here in Britain I think we are asking for too much from the birds. We want them to win at all distances and carry on winning right up until they are six or even seven. Selection would be much easier if we selected for a narrower performance. Even if we had to keep two or three differant types of birds to satisfy the wide variety of competitions we fly in. So in my opinion, it is not "Strains" or "Breeds" that will give us success but the ability to select for what we need to win pigeon races in our particular competition. So to me, that means when I want to buy a bird my question is, "What has he won"? And not "What Strain is he"?

[Guest]

As long as they win Im not worried what breed they are as pure this family and pure that family only happens in this country!.

 

Good answer. No such breed as "pure bred pigeon".  Read the "History of the Belgian Strains" to emphasise the point. ALL the continental fliers swap birds, or introduce birds from other top fliers, to make their own "Name" strain, but it doesn't make them pure.

 

There are many exceptional fanciers in this country, but they don't get the credit they deserve because their name doesn't start with "Van".

 

A racing pigeon is a racing pigeon and in 99.9% of cases winning is down to animal husbandry and good management and the other !% is luck.

 

The Belgian, Dutch, French and German fanciers are laughing at our ignorance when it comes to Van this and Van that.

 

Years ago we had the Marriotts, Kirkpatricks, Bakers, to name but a few, that would have, and DID stand the test of time along with the continentals of their era. Even the great George Busscheart came and lived in this country, and bred birds on British soil and proved a point. JMHO

 

 

[jimmy white]

The best birds are birds bred from winning parents. "Strain" or "Breed" means nothing, except perhaps as a starting point for your selection. If you breed from your winners you will automatically select for the type of racing you are involved in.

In America at Spring Hill, Florida, they have selected from mainly young bird winners. The result is that they now have superb birds that mature much faster than normal here in Britain. The young bird specialists on the Continent have done much the same.

Here in Britain I think we are asking for too much from the birds. We want them to win at all distances and carry on winning right up until they are six or even seven. Selection would be much easier if we selected for a narrower performance. Even if we had to keep two or three differant types of birds to satisfy the wide variety of competitions we fly in. So in my opinion, it is not "Strains" or "Breeds" that will give us success but the ability to select for what we need to win pigeon races in our particular competition. So to me, that means when I want to buy a bird my question is, "What has he won"? And not "What Strain is he"?

 

i would completely endorse this post