worms???

[Guest joshdonlan]

Hi

I have noticed over the last few days my birds regurgitating there food after feeding. Is this worms? I have been treating them for worms with harvex in the water, but the problem is persisting. I today noticed a bit of a smell from of the piles, but this is the first time. Could this be canker? I have noticed a few wet droppings and water in the nest boxes. The birds are feeding young atm.

 

Please help!!!

 

 

[Guest ljb107]

I don't think it could be worms.  Normally worms just make the bird very weak as they live in the intestines and feed on all of the nutrients the birds digest.

 

Lloyd

 

 

[Guest bigda]

check out your corn bin for signs of  mice mate as i think you

have salmonella  about your loft if so  start to disinfect your loft  set a  couple of mouse traps   the birds with the watery droppings isolate in  boxes  give electrolyte in water

and only " surmising" this mate treat with  amoxiciline or  batril but better ask the vet  first  stop worming them as you might be  over the top   and who told you to worm when you had young in the nest mate i think you need to  get your  head into a book a bout  pigeon husbandry

[OLDYELLOW]

most wormers make the birds sick. So its advised there not fed for 24 hours before worming, smelly droppings does indicate canker. Treating blind will make your birds weak always consult a vet and have droppings tested and microbe levels tested via a swab. When adult birds are feeding there are under stress so droppings from them may be more watery than usual and stress can cause canker levels to rise , and when adult pigeons feed there young birds they may loose water from crop when regurgitating observation is key

[Guest joshdonlan]

any idea what it could be?

[Guest ljb107]

any idea what it could be?

 

It might be canker best to go to a vet.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

most wormers make the birds sick

[Guest ljb107]

most wormers make the birds sick

 

Thats true.

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

That is most likely the case. It reccomends treating the birds water for 2 consecutive days and i noticed no improvement so i repeated this. Should i leave it a day or too and see if things get better? I was just slightly concerned if it was a virus or disease such as canker that needs treating. It is the being sick that is the main problem, the droppings arnt too bad and they seem healthy enough, still laying etc.

 

Please help!!!

[Guest bigda]

see a vet mate as your are not reading your own  threads

[Guest joshdonlan]

see a vet mate as your are not reading your own  threads

 

 

what does that mean, im not reading my own threads?

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

thanks old yellow. It wasnt the droppings smelling, it was the sick i think

 

thanks

[Guest bigda]

ther are   four at least postings on here mate telling you to take them to the vet

[OLDYELLOW]

when treating for worms 1st read the leaflet that came with it if it says treat for two days then you treat for 2 days. The loft should then be scrubbed i recommend using jeyes fluid great stuff for sterilizing the loft. If your birds did not respond to the treatment there is no point in repeating it . I suggest that your birds are been sick because you dint follow the instructions on the medication.have you examined the birds throat? does it smell ? are the birds retaining corn ? are birds well ventilated ? are the dropping fell slimey ?many many questions but the best one is ring your vet collect dropping samples get microplasm done and dropping samples done before you damage your birds any further

[Guest joshdonlan]

thanks for the advice all, sorry bigda, the replies are not comming to me straight away there is a delay!

 

thanks mate

[Guest bigda]

thanks for the advice all, sorry bigda, the replies are not comming to me straight away there is a delay!

 

thanks mate

no probs mate

 

[pjc]

Josh, is this in old and youngbirds or just youngbirds?

Best course of action to take before any treatment when you know there is a problem is to get swab and dropping tests. In the long run will also work out cheaper as you won't keep buying expensive medication that is not needed and can treat the spacific problem!

 

Get em tested!!!!

 

 

Phil

[Guest joshdonlan]

Thanks for the help guys. I think i have not explained myself correctly. Firstly in the worming of young birds there is only 1 nest and they are 20 days old, i understand not to worm young birds, but i thought worming the rest would be more important. Secondly worming them twice, if you read the instructions it says use over a 2 day period and if no improvement redo the treatment for another 2 day course. There is no mice infestation in the loft, and the corn bins are sealed bins. The only way of this is if they came in when the doors are open. I think it may just be the case of meover reacting as i am fairly new into the sport There is nothing in the mouth and throat is clear. I have only noticed it on about 5 birds and they seem to be healthy and flying apart from being sick.

 

If there are any suggestions i would appreciate them. All as i can think is the worms/worming or a change in  the minerals i am using.

 

I will seek help from aother local fancier

 

Thanks again

 

Josh

[pjc]

Josh, stop guessing and get them tested or you could start losing birds because of incorrect diagnosis etc

 

Phil

[just ask me]

josh they are so many possibles here to whats causing that without seeing the birds its really hard to help get them tested really is the best  but i would be surprised if its not a form of salmonella

[Guest joshdonlan]

Hi

Thanks for that, i will contact a vet. Are there any common symptoms of salmonella?