can you help

[Guest karl adams]

some of my birds  keep scratching there beaks  sneezing  yourning  and have loose droppings what can i give them to put them right

[jimmy white]

could be many things karl ,, sounds a bit like respiratory probs,, but with loose droppings  best see a  good avian vet,, ,,,safer

[wayne77]

Feel don't know enough Karl. but as no other answers.  Scratching beaks and some of other things may be canker.  When sneezing is there any snot(know not nice) as may have bad case of respiratory.  The loose dropping have you changed corn as this sometimes happens  But there are people on here that know more about cures and symptoms.

 

Hope just something simple

[Guest karl adams]

i sent droppings off and had results back but i think i was ripped off again and the things i was told to give the birds made things worse

[wayne77]

What they come back with Karl? did you take throat swab? as jimmy said many things so need to pin point exactly.

 

Not wanting to worry you too much Karl but just thought what are symptoms or air sac mites? sure heard of these just the scratch seems to ring bell

[Guest karl adams]

yes a swab was sent

the results were  

worms  =  clear

coccidiosis = slight

bacterial = slight

yeast -candida = normal

 

swab sample results

canker = n/a

bacteril population = slight

yeast -candida = normal

[Tony C]

What did the vet tell you to treat for and what with.

[Guest bigda]

is the loft shut up  no air  moulting fethers  getting up there nose

[Guest karl adams]

i was told to treat for bacterial and cocci

i was told to give them  protril and mycro plus

which i did and ended up having to mop out the loft the next morning as all the loft floor was plastered in wet droppings i phoned up to see what was wrong and was told not to worry and just double the dose  but did not i took the birds off it

[Guest karl adams]

loft is only shut up at night

[Guest bigda]

its seem to me mate  you have  protozoa of some sort but  there seem to me more than that

its more like salmonella or ecol if that sh-t you need amoxcacilne  have you mice geting in

[Guest karl adams]

no mice

[ChrisMaidment08]

no mice

 

every body has mice sometimes

[Tony C]

Is protril an electrolite? not heard of the other one

[Guest karl adams]

my loft is 5ft in the air and is shut up tight at night and there is rat  poison under neath that is checked Evey week and changed every month

[Guest bigda]

no mice

 

the can climb no bother,  check your corn  store have you changed there  corn to barley or wheat the droppings  clear watery  a puddle type  corn can be rubbish get a new bag and try that  lock them all up in boxes with news paper in  if they are not losing weight   its the old corn  this happen to few fanciers last year  this gm crop stuff might be to blame

[Guest karl adams]

results

[Guest bigda]

no mice

 

if you have rats  no mice,  no rats you will have mice

[gangster]

other parasites...high???   does not really tell you nothing about what parasites does it?? off second page

[Guest bigda]

other parasites...high???   does not really tell you nothing about what parasites does it?? off second page

 

yep but the bill is always crystal clear :-/

[Guest karl adams]

its bacterial

[Guest karl adams]

today i will give them Moxidectin for 24 hours

[Tony C]

If thats a high bacterial count I would put them on a course of Amoxacylin. I would feed once a day and remove the drinker 45 minutes after they've been fed.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

Well i would of said scratching could be as others have stated either dust from bloom or respirity problems as a precaution i would brush all the dust / bloom from ceiling mesch if any , and wipe all walls down with Jeyes Fluid , then treat the respirity  then repeat the wiping of walls once treated for , it also sounds like either or both canker / throat flem may have flaired up as a result of the respirity , did you remove the grit when treating the respirity infection ? but if there is a respirity problem ventilation needs to be looked at to prevent further out breaks

[Guest karl adams]

my lofts are cleaned out 2 times a day every day  when i clean out in the mornings i blow tour ch boxes perches traps and then the floor my loft gets sprayed with chlorocarb