Rife Again.

[mark]

there you go stb natural pruducts and problem solved or do you think hes telling lies

 

 

keep YB racing simple its the future you want them for not just this season.

[Guest Owen]

What's this about bad management? Right then how about you Smart Ar--- telling us how to do it. There's a challenge for you. And I would be willing to bet, before you say anything, that you will not take the challenge. And if you think elder berries and things like that are cures, I will know you really are bonkers.

I have had a stray here for the last couple of days. It looks awful. It obviously is not well, and as a pigeon, it is a terrible specimen. Someone allowed that thing to live and then allowed it to become a flying disease pot to spread goodness knows what to everyone else.

And regarding the practice of feeding birds before they are entered into a race. Surely everyone knows what happens to the food you gave them. It is spewed out for all the birds to eat. Birds with YBS are worse because they spew up infected food. And they have had more to start with. Feeding pigeons, especially young pigeons, before they go into the race basket is the best way to spread infection far and wide. So why do it? Your pigeons do not benefit by it, they just throw it up.  

[The Navigator]

 

keep YB racing simple its the future you want them for not just this season.

 

Well said that man.

[mark]

What's this about bad management? Right then how about you Smart Ar--- telling us how to do it. There's a challenge for you. And I would be willing to bet, before you say anything, that you will not take the challenge. And if you think elder berries and things like that are cures, I will know you really are bonkers.

I have had a stray here for the last couple of days. It looks awful. It obviously is not well, and as a pigeon, it is a terrible specimen. Someone allowed that thing to live and then allowed it to become a flying disease pot to spread goodness knows what to everyone else.

And regarding the practice of feeding birds before they are entered into a race. Surely everyone knows what happens to the food you gave them. It is spewed out for all the birds to eat. Birds with YBS are worse because they spew up infected food. And they have had more to start with. Feeding pigeons, especially young pigeons, before they go into the race basket is the best way to spread infection far and wide. So why do it? Your pigeons do not benefit by it, they just throw it up.  

 

hello owen,

                    surely that depends on how you feed on race day as  there are many light feeds you can give. perhaps the problem is how you condition a bird for a race.?

 

[edwards]

i totally aggree with that me self thats a big problem want a cure for this vaccinate for salmonella and paratyhoid sorted.

[blackdog]

What's this about bad management? Right then how about you Smart Ar--- telling us how to do it. There's a challenge for you. And I would be willing to bet, before you say anything, that you will not take the challenge. And if you think elder berries and things like that are cures, I will know you really are bonkers.

I have had a stray here for the last couple of days. It looks awful. It obviously is not well, and as a pigeon, it is a terrible specimen. Someone allowed that thing to live and then allowed it to become a flying disease pot to spread goodness knows what to everyone else.

And regarding the practice of feeding birds before they are entered into a race. Surely everyone knows what happens to the food you gave them. It is spewed out for all the birds to eat. Birds with YBS are worse because they spew up infected food. And they have had more to start with. Feeding pigeons, especially young pigeons, before they go into the race basket is the best way to spread infection far and wide. So why do it? Your pigeons do not benefit by it, they just throw it up.  

 

well said mate,  i think these 2 should write a book so we can stop winning so many races

 

 

[marmite]

YBS NOT NICE IN LAST 7 YRS HAD IT TWICE NOW IS SECOND TIME .

YRS I HAVENT BOTHERED CLEANIN YOUNGUNS OUT MUCH IVE NOT HAD IT BUT THIS YR HAVE CLEANED OUT EVERY DAY AND GOT IT SO I THINK ITS A STRESS RELATED VIRUS OFF TRAININ AND THEN RACIN GOT IT AFTER MY 3RD TRAININ TOSS BUT I REALLY DONT KNOW THE ANSWER .  BUT ALL IVE USED IS MILTONS  & CIDER VINEGAR MOST R CLEAR OF IT NOW

DROPPING GETTIN BK TO NORMAL  & STILL 2 WEEKS TO GO BFORE WE START RACEIN

SO WILL LEAVE THEM ANOTHER WK BEFORE I TRAIN AGAIN

[holmsidelofts]

I totally agree with Owen. Fanciers who send there birds racing with food in them are one of the main spreaders of disease in our sport. the is no need for birds to be put in the basket with corn in them. I feed my birds on a friday but i do it early enough so they dont have food in there crop when i take them to the basketing station. I've put birds through at basketing stations  and they had that much corn in them they couldnt hardly stand up, As soon as they were on the move in the transporter they would have thrown it all up and every bird in that basket would have eaten some of it and would have picked up loads of germs. The federation needs to outlaw birds with corn in them, every club should have an appointed person to say if a bird should go through or not. This is the way its done in Australia and we need to adopt this method.

 

 

[edwards]

must be each other your racing

[blackdog]

I totally agree with Owen. Fanciers who send there birds racing with food in them are one of the main spreaders of disease in our sport. the is no need for birds to be put in the basket with corn in them. I feed my birds on a friday but i do it early enough so they dont have food in there crop when i take them to the basketing station. I've put birds through at basketing stations  and they had that much corn in them they couldnt hardly stand up, As soon as they were on the move in the transporter they would have thrown it all up and every bird in that basket would have eaten some of it and would have picked up loads of germs. The federation needs to outlaw birds with corn in them, every club should have an appointed person to say if a bird should go through or not. This is the way its done in Australia and we need to adopt this method.

 

 

couldnt agree more mate, common sense.

[mark]

YBS NOT NICE IN LAST 7 YRS HAD IT TWICE NOW IS SECOND TIME .

YRS I HAVENT BOTHERED CLEANIN YOUNGUNS OUT MUCH IVE NOT HAD IT BUT THIS YR HAVE CLEANED OUT EVERY DAY AND GOT IT SO I THINK ITS A STRESS RELATED VIRUS OFF TRAININ AND THEN RACIN GOT IT AFTER MY 3RD TRAININ TOSS BUT I REALLY DONT KNOW THE ANSWER .  BUT ALL IVE USED IS MILTONS  & CIDER VINEGAR MOST R CLEAR OF IT NOW

DROPPING GETTIN BK TO NORMAL  & STILL 2 WEEKS TO GO BFORE WE START RACEIN

SO WILL LEAVE THEM ANOTHER WK BEFORE I TRAIN AGAIN

 

to many ybs in one section over crowding  that cant help matters.

[blackdog]

YBS NOT NICE IN LAST 7 YRS HAD IT TWICE NOW IS SECOND TIME .

YRS I HAVENT BOTHERED CLEANIN YOUNGUNS OUT MUCH IVE NOT HAD IT BUT THIS YR HAVE CLEANED OUT EVERY DAY AND GOT IT SO I THINK ITS A STRESS RELATED VIRUS OFF TRAININ AND THEN RACIN GOT IT AFTER MY 3RD TRAININ TOSS BUT I REALLY DONT KNOW THE ANSWER .  BUT ALL IVE USED IS MILTONS  & CIDER VINEGAR MOST R CLEAR OF IT NOW

DROPPING GETTIN BK TO NORMAL  & STILL 2 WEEKS TO GO BFORE WE START RACEIN

SO WILL LEAVE THEM ANOTHER WK BEFORE I TRAIN AGAIN

 

better to get it out of the way before racing starts marmite, they will come good mate, rest and light feed.

 

 

[white logan]

there you go stb natural pruducts and problem solved or do you think hes telling lies

 

 

i think you should all keep chucking chemicals and drugs down their throats and dont treat for specific ailments , just give em some medicine

[blackdog]

 

i think you should all keep chucking chemicals and drugs down their throats and dont treat for specific ailments , just give em some medicine

 

just when i thought we had some sensible people on white logan pops up ;D

 

 

[white logan]

 

just when i thought we had some sensible people on white logan pops up ;D

 

 

if you had sensible people debating they would have had a diagnosis performed by a vet ,........just keep giving the potions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest stb]

 

its posted all over this forum what people are giving there birds and common knowledge which u seem void off

I would very much doubt the people that im talking about are on the forum

 

as i know that quite a few of them do not have computers,  what other people on the forum give there birds is entierly up to themselves rightly or wrongly and its them and there birds that suffer if its the latter.

 

 

[Guest stb]

 

if you had sensible people debating they would have had a diagnosis performed by a vet ,........just keep giving the potions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

W L well siad my man

 

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[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

I would very much doubt the people that im talking about are on the forum

 

as i know that quite a few of them do not have computers,  what other people on the forum give there birds is entierly up to themselves rightly or wrongly and its them and there birds that suffer if its the latter.

 

its the answer to how i know what people are giving there pigeons and i might even know the same people as you and indeed maybe you yourself

 

 

[Guest Owen]

I am still wondering when I will be enlightened on how to manage my pigeons by the Know-Alls who like to preach to the rest of us. As I suspected, they are all pi-- and wind.

It would be in all our best interests if the Clubs took up the holmeside lofts suggestion. Someone should be appointed to check the birds before they are allowed to go into the race basket. Any that look ill or have food in them should be turned back. This problem is one that affects us all. No one Fancier should be allowed to adversley affect the majority.

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

I am still wondering when I will be enlightened on how to manage my pigeons by the Know-Alls who like to preach to the rest of us. As I suspected, they are all pi-- and wind.

It would be in all our best interests if the Clubs took up the holmeside lofts suggestion. Someone should be appointed to check the birds before they are allowed to go into the race basket. Any that look ill or have food in them should be turned back. This problem is one that affects us all. No one Fancier should be allowed to adversley affect the majority.

Basketing comittee should be checking for sick and injured birds during marking and you cant stop a man feeding his birds

 

 

[Guest stb]

there you go stb natural pruducts and problem solved or do you think hes telling lies

 

what are you on about i never said it was right to give birds anything, natural products are good but so is the right medication for the job on hand. I TAKE IT YOU NEVER GET SICK OR GET THE COLD OR OWT ,  what do you do go to the doctor or swalloow some natural products and thasts you sorted,  If anyone not well dont go to doc just take some natural products, you can get them from  high on speed lofts

 

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

YEAH  i use natural products for colds and flu plenty vitamin c   and some herbal  

[blackdog]

 

if you had sensible people debating they would have had a diagnosis performed by a vet ,........just keep giving the potions ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

no need for a vet my friend, just starve them for 48 hours, save you a fortune, had odd ones holding corn 4 days ago, nothing to eat for 48 hrs, had them out this afternoon and they were the last ones to drop, only way starve them till its completly out of there system then build them up slowly feeding 3 times a day on depurative.

 

 

[Guest stb]

YEAH  i use natural products for colds and flu plenty vitamin c   and some herbal  

YOU GOT ANYTHING THERE FOR RHUMATOID ARTHRITIS THEN.

 

NA WELL p*ss OFF

 

 

[Guest Owen]

HighSpeedLofts. If I had my way, I would make it an offence to feed birds before basketing them for a race. The people who do that sort of thing must be aware that their birds will spew it up. So they know it is antisocial to do it.

You are right, we can'nt stop people feeding their birds. But we should have the right to stop those same people from causing our birds to be infected by their dirty and selfish attitudes. Unfortunately, there are too many people like you, who think they can do just what you like, regardless of the effect you are having on others. I find your attitude just short of bullying. "I'll do what I like and sod the rest of you". Sad.