PIGEON TRACKER

[oscar_]

well impressed with pigeon tracker ,rainham to scotland next day,bird in exellent condition ,thanks to jimmy white for holding and feeding&watering

[PigeonTracker]

Okay now I'm back safely in my office I'm going to reply to what appears to be orchestrated personal attacks on my company.  Firstly, and most important, all pigeons were safely delivered and in excellent condition.  To the one in Glasgow who condemned the 53 hour wait, that's 3 days and I can provide records of our conversations from our staff where we constantly apologised for the delays due to circumstances beyond our control.  You had the opportunity to voice your concerns to me personally when I handed you the bird, wonder why you waited for the forum?  

 

To Jimmy_Bulger,  I'm hugely dissapointed at you coming onto the forum bad mouthing when it was you along with other factors I'm going to explain actually contributed to the growing delay.  So to get the facts right, there was a massive traffic jam on the M4 which kept that particular drop static for almost 4 and a half hours, at the same time in their infinate wisdom the police were doing spot checks using ANPR (Automatic Number Plate recognition), this helped delay more for thousands of commuters that day not just us.

 

Combine this with delays caused by inconsiderate fanciers (Posted about seperately) and the fact that half of Edinburgh is under roadworks with diversions just about everywhere it was a nightmare journey.  Despite this, and the fact we were constantly in touch with those that bothered to answer thier phones we did not hold back and even though it would have been easy to go the amtrak route, and most other couriers, by simply taking the birds back to a depot and delivering a week later we never.  We stayed on that route until we completed it regardless of our own personal comfort.

 

Because of the delays we wanted to make sure that not one bird stayed on the van more than one day of travel at any one time, so worked around our holding lofts to make sure they were well looked after while we underwent constant re-routing.  

 

It appears to me that the critics here (small in number compared to those who praise us) are akin to football fans who expect their star striker to score every game he plays in.  When he scores you love him, it is the same with Pigeon Tracker, we provide an excellent service 99.8% of the time and praised for this, when we failed to deliver this one occassion through no fault of our own, akin to the star striker your all shouting that you want us out.   You really need to take a step back and see how poorly you've all behaved, and the language wholly unnaceptable, moreso that there are many female and child readers of this forum, you've brought shame on this forum, yourselves and your own sport.  I hope you all take time to reflect on how you've behaved and after reading this and another post I'm about to make apoligise not only to this forum but perhaps to my company as your attacks are uncalled for and unacceptable.

 

Pigeon Tracker works diligently to deliver all birds on time or as best possibe taking into account things like traffic, weather, and awkward non-fanciers, together with a minority of inconsiderate (or non thinking) fanciers which will be explained on another post.  Kind words came from Mr. Jamieson from Scotland who you all know when he said you won't please all of the people all of the time.  How true he was, however, Mr. Jamieson was happy with the fact he had his birds delivered fit and healthy albeit with a delay.  To quote him regarding the delays due to circumstances beyond our control, 'these things happen', he was not the only one who praised us regardless of the delays.  Remembering this was not a week or a fortnight delay, it was a two day delay at most, note that we always tried to phone and note that we stayed on that route until the end, then try justifying your outrageous behaviour these past few days.

 

I'm off to my next post now where I hope the critics here, read and recognise that by criticising couriers like my company they are ignoring the fact that fanciers themselves are often the cause of the problem regarding delays and should be addressing that before jumping in like a pack of baying hyenas wanting their pound of flesh off the couriers.   I'm sure most will appreciate that I simply have to defend my company and would confidently throw down a challenge to any one of you critics here to do what we've done.

 

I'm not going to get drawn into personal attacks for that's not the way I or my company work, what I would ask is that you perhaps take stock of my next post which will be linked here before attacking my company in future, you'll see what I mean on reading.  Unlike Amtrak and others we are always available for contact, and despite the rudeness of impatient people we deal with problems in a courtious and professional manner and will always do our best to work with the fancier to give answers.  This is done in the hope that eventually we WILL create what I believe will be the UK's best dedicated pigeon courier, to do this we need YOU the fancier to work with us, not attack us, and my next post will explain just what's going wrong with the fancier and couriers which is causing your disquiet with delays.

 

Sorry for the long post, it was required...

 

Jamie

 

 

 

I'll post the link here in a bit....

[Delboy]

Okay now I'm back safely in my office I'm going to reply to what appears to be orchestrated personal attacks on my company.  Firstly, and most important, all pigeons were safely delivered and in excellent condition.  To the one in Glasgow who condemned the 53 hour wait, that's 3 days and I can provide records of our conversations from our staff where we constantly apologised for the delays due to circumstances beyond our control.  You had the opportunity to voice your concerns to me personally when I handed you the bird, wonder why you waited for the forum?  

 

To Jimmy_Bulger,  I'm hugely dissapointed at you coming onto the forum bad mouthing when it was you along with other factors I'm going to explain actually contributed to the growing delay.  So to get the facts right, there was a massive traffic jam on the M4 which kept that particular drop static for almost 4 and a half hours, at the same time in their infinate wisdom the police were doing spot checks using ANPR (Automatic Number Plate recognition), this helped delay more for thousands of commuters that day not just us.

 

Combine this with delays caused by inconsiderate fanciers (Posted about seperately) and the fact that half of Edinburgh is under roadworks with diversions just about everywhere it was a nightmare journey.  Despite this, and the fact we were constantly in touch with those that bothered to answer thier phones we did not hold back and even though it would have been easy to go the amtrak route, and most other couriers, by simply taking the birds back to a depot and delivering a week later we never.  We stayed on that route until we completed it regardless of our own personal comfort.

 

Because of the delays we wanted to make sure that not one bird stayed on the van more than one day of travel at any one time, so worked around our holding lofts to make sure they were well looked after while we underwent constant re-routing.  

 

It appears to me that the critics here (small in number compared to those who praise us) are akin to football fans who expect their star striker to score every game he plays in.  When he scores you love him, it is the same with Pigeon Tracker, we provide an excellent service 99.8% of the time and praised for this, when we failed to deliver this one occassion through no fault of our own, akin to the star striker your all shouting that you want us out.   You really need to take a step back and see how poorly you've all behaved, and the language wholly unnaceptable, moreso that there are many female and child readers of this forum, you've brought shame on this forum, yourselves and your own sport.  I hope you all take time to reflect on how you've behaved and after reading this and another post I'm about to make apoligise not only to this forum but perhaps to my company as your attacks are uncalled for and unacceptable.

 

Pigeon Tracker works diligently to deliver all birds on time or as best possibe taking into account things like traffic, weather, and awkward non-fanciers, together with a minority of inconsiderate (or non thinking) fanciers which will be explained on another post.  Kind words came from Mr. Jamieson from Scotland who you all know when he said you won't please all of the people all of the time.  How true he was, however, Mr. Jamieson was happy with the fact he had his birds delivered fit and healthy albeit with a delay.  To quote him regarding the delays due to circumstances beyond our control, 'these things happen', he was not the only one who praised us regardless of the delays.  Remembering this was not a week or a fortnight delay, it was a two day delay at most, note that we always tried to phone and note that we stayed on that route until the end, then try justifying your outrageous behaviour these past few days.

 

I'm off to my next post now where I hope the critics here, read and recognise that by criticising couriers like my company they are ignoring the fact that fanciers themselves are often the cause of the problem regarding delays and should be addressing that before jumping in like a pack of baying hyenas wanting their pound of flesh off the couriers.   I'm sure most will appreciate that I simply have to defend my company and would confidently throw down a challenge to any one of you critics here to do what we've done.

 

I'm not going to get drawn into personal attacks for that's not the way I or my company work, what I would ask is that you perhaps take stock of my next post which will be linked here before attacking my company in future, you'll see what I mean on reading.  Unlike Amtrak and others we are always available for contact, and despite the rudeness of impatient people we deal with problems in a courtious and professional manner and will always do our best to work with the fancier to give answers.  This is done in the hope that eventually we WILL create what I believe will be the UK's best dedicated pigeon courier, to do this we need YOU the fancier to work with us, not attack us, and my next post will explain just what's going wrong with the fancier and couriers which is causing your disquiet with delays.

 

Sorry for the long post, it was required...

 

Jamie

 

 

 

I'll post the link here in a bit....

 

This is the fella from Glasgow, LIES, LIES and more  LIES. You luckily spoke to my wife cos I had went out. We phoned you dozens of  times and didnt get an answer.You promised the bird would be delivered to Gloucester yesterday but again LIES, LIES and the poor fella is just off phone to me.Its his turn to go through all the P*** I went through with this amateur company. You are worse than I thought because of the blatant LIES you are telling.

[Delboy]

You dont even know that you collected a bird fom us, not gave us a bird? Believe this, I would have left it alone but you have made a big mistake telling lies to potential customers on this forum.

[alex wight]

Delboy i appreciatte you are upset and frustrated, but please refrain from swearing on the site. Thank you, alex.

[Mighty Flyer]

We all sound like a bunch of school children.

 

The Pigeons were picked up and delivered safely, maybe late but they were SAFE, isn't that what counts??

 

Stop working against Pigeon Tracker and work with them.

 

 

[Delboy]

We all sound like a bunch of school children.

 

The Pigeons were picked up and delivered safely, maybe late but they were SAFE, isn't that what counts??

 

Stop working against Pigeon Tracker and work with them.

 

 

NOT DELIVERED YET >

[Guest Vic]

Had no problem with bird picked up from Kent and delivered to Surrey  bit pricey but that I think was due to being the only one being delivered that way

 

  I had no intention of  joining the debate, regarding our pressurised pigeon package

people. I know that J.B. would never intend "rocking the boat" at so  a crucial time in pigeon conveyance. So lay off PLEASE!  Incidentally! What was the price charged from Kent to Surrey?  Lay all cards on the table please!  

 

 

[jimmy_bulger]

hi vic i have not slagged the guy or his firm off,i asked for a phone number : if anyone reads my posts they speak for themselfs.

jimmy

[Guest Vic]

That's exactly how I see it myself Jim. Vic.

[jimmy_bulger]

still waiting for a responce to my pm.

[jimmy_bulger]

POSTED BY JIMMY BULGER::  

hi all.

anyone on here got jamies mobile number, ?  one annoyed   customer at the moment

no worth a blow on a rag tatters bugle ,that one mate.  

liverpool to aberdeen

he must of encountered a problem on the road....!!!!

YOU GOT EM YET STEVIE...

stevie . just spoke to the woman she said she sorted it with you that you going to stay up.

the birds are on there way (alledgedly).

keep us informed am off to me pit cya later,  

yes jimmy they done the job here too its just they got held up in cumbria by a numpty non fancier.

good to here  stevie  

[jimmy_bulger]

PART 2  

you rung em delboy

hes in scotland now ,dont see why he didnt pick your birds up

joe wot would you rather i call them. hi ian hows tricks.

my post was to ask for your mobile number to contact you on the road as to find out what was the state of play,as both myself and stevie were a bit frustrated at the lack information at that time.

my post was not and is not meant to due you any injustice .

i think myself and stevie are at the end of the day happy with the service but hopefully a bit more comunication wouldn't go amiss.

we all realize how hard it is to get it perfect in the early days of this venture.

jimmy

[jimmy_bulger]

PART 3::

hi vic i have not slagged the guy or his firm off,i asked for a phone number : if anyone reads my posts they speak for themselfs.

jimmy

still waiting for a responce to my pm.

[jimmy_bulger]

now seems as i have been portrayed as a person who is trying to destroy" PIGEON TRACKERS" reputation i ask that you read the above and if anyone can read that i dished the sh** out to them both myself and my brief would welcome your proof of the alleged scathing attack I ALLEDGEDLY made on PIGEON TRACKER.

i welcome PIGEON TRACKERS response and alo they can feel free to post a copy to my brief.(ROBIN MAKIN) CO/

E.REX.MAKIN &CO,WHITECHAPPLE,LIVERPOOL

[PigeonTracker]

may be we just have to give the new boys a bit of time too get thing s  working the  way we would all like them to be  , jon

Thanks Jon, some sense among madness.

 

I've spoken to Jimmy since this and the only thing I thought was out of order was the fact he said contacting us by phone was useless.  It isn't, as with any mobile number if you don't get a signal you don' get the call.  Try a little later and the signal will probably be back, anyone with a mobile will be aware of this problem, its not the drivers fault.

 

There are several numbers to call and if no answer please leave a message as the line is probably being used.

 

P.S.  I'm not the only driver, nor do I use the internet when I do so posting questions on where your pigeons are whilst I'm out on the road is probably not the best way to get a response.

 

Jamie.

 

 

[joe61]

guys the man is trying to do a good job like all coriours but think you are the only one who needs this guy your not its the busy time of the year for moving birds around at end of racing so give the guy some slack

 

oh happy days

[jimmy_bulger]

hi jamie.

on the phone issue you are right the call divert got me and on this i was totally out of order,it was never my intention to slaughter you or your company's reputation.

jimmy

[PigeonTracker]

hi jamie.

on the phone issue you are right the call divert got me and on this i was totally out of order,it was never my intention to slaughter you or your company's reputation.

jimmy

Hi Jimmy, you never slaughtered our reputation because fortunately as fickle as us fanciers can be most are wise enough to understand that we all get fed up at times and say things in the heat of the moment.   Every person I spoke to who recieved their birds later than planned understood that things are often beyond the couriers control and this was no exception.

 

What I'd like to re-assure people is that even through a delay the birds in our care are looked after as if their were our own and that is the most important aspect of all.  We're no amtrak, we won't let the birds fester in a warehouse unfed and un-watered for a week before delivering next, we, as proved this week are even prepared to stay on the road for as long as it takes to get the birds back to their owners.   How that can be critisiced is beyond my understanding.

 

Jamie