hartogs and de klaks

[grizzle09]

whats your opinions on these birds how far do you think they cood manage before starting to stuggle ... cheers

[Guest bigda]

I  think they  do great  from  the    120  to  420 mile,   middle distance  and fast at that

[shoortie]

yea 100 to 500 miles. hartogs will fly for fun if you get the right ones

[grizzle09]

cheers lads

[Guest mick bowler]

de klaks have won thru to 600 miles.

[Guest anto]

ive crossed hartogs with van reets and they done very well out to 350 upto 400 miles great cross guts and speed