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Q12: Do you use a darkening system with your old birds? if so do you find this to be a great advantage in the longer distance races. A12: I don't use it, maybe it is a good system to let the pigeons keep there veders for a longer time. In Holland they say that Koopman use this system but that is short and middle distance. Let me say one thing, some people try every system what others told them to do. I think, first of all you must win good prizes without any system, than to win the TOP prizes you must think about things you can chance to let you pigeons race faster. If you cant ride a bicycle why do you want to know than how to win de Tour the France ? Many system are in the beginning the things to do to win races and because some topracers use the system everybody want to know how it works. Than after one or two years the topracers don't use it anymore because they find out that it was not so good as they tought it was or there are many bad things happened with the pigeons they didn't know that it became to use that system. If you race longdistance don't ask from your pigeons that they win a middledistance race. Use them for the races you wanne have good results. There are for sure good fanciers who use some systems but I know for 100% there are also good fanciers who use any "system" at all. And maybe, the way I train and race my pigeons somebody else say, that the system of Raymond Moleveld, and I think I do the things what I think I must do.
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Q10: how do you feed your birds for races 500 miles and over? A10: I think you can find the answer by answer A2 Q11: Can you describe what you look for in a long distance pigeon s wing? A11: Maybe you don't believe me but I am not somebody who look to many details of a pigeon. There are some things I like to see but that are more things like a golden eye and a strong body with a good back. I am very lucky that my pigeons look very nice in the hand. On shows I always get many points for my pigeons. So because of that I think my pigeons are nice build. The only thing I maybe think is important for a long-distance pigeon is that the bone close to the body is short and not long, that is more for sprint pigeons
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Q 9: Raymond what advice would you give to a new starter taking up our great sport. A9: keep your ears open and listen to what people say. You can learn from good fanciers to do some things they do, you can also learn from bad fanciers to do not what they do. Than make your own system, if you think that is the system what is the best for you and your pigeons than believe in that and don't chance it time after time. You can chance some details but let the pigeons learn how your system works. Make a start on 1. a good loft, most importent, 2. good pigeons and 3. everything you do for your birds they give it back to you.
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Q7: hello, what does raymond look for when purchasing a hen, many thanks mark A7: I think you read the answer of this question in the tekst Stuart write. Apple, Good color eys, strong back and not to big. Q8: does he believe in crossing his birds, thanks scott A8: I started to build my family with birds from 2 different lines. I bring an other line in but these was also based on the same Aarden pigeons. Now I don't think its allready needed to cross my pigeons because I am not on a dead end. A very good lucky thing is that my pigeons accepted inbred very well. My "Blauwe Bertus" 1st Natinal St.Vincent was bred from a halfbrother x halfsister.
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Q5: does raymond think dutch fanciers and birds are far superior to the uk flyers/birds or not much difference is so what are they? A5: I don't think you can say that the one or the other is better. I think the better short distance racers are in Belgium and the best longdistance pigeons are from Dutch origine. You can see what kind of pigeons the fanciers have in England. If those pigeons are arrived in England than they must prove that they can handlle the different situation than they have before. The landscape is totally different and also they must race over the sea and sometimes from Nord to South. So what I think is that the bases of the pigeons are the same and the reason that English fanciers buy pigeons from Belgium and the Netherlands in not for nothing, but that the English fanciers than create harder pigeons by selecting them and raced them by totally different sucomstances ( ? ) . Q6: who does raymond think is the best distance flier in holland and why? A6: I think the best in Holland is Nico Volkens from Bergen. He lives in the nord of holland and so his pigeons must fly more miles than most of the other birds. In the championship of the ZLU he was also this year the best fancier. The following is not the reason why I say Nico Volkens, check his results and you can see with your own eys that he raced very well. Nico build up his raceteam with pigeons from Sam de Jong from Heemskerk. The same person were I have my pigeons from. Nico bought his first pigeons by Sam in 1990 and I bought them in 1991. Nico has a very famous breeding pair called "Het Bonte Koppel" they breed a lot of good children and grandchildren for Nico and everybody in Holland who is interested in longdistance piogeons knowing this pair. I also must say, there are not so many fanciers in Holland who race very very good with the pigeons of Nico. I think that in this case you can say, you buy the pigeons but not the guy who raced them. Its for 100% sure that pigeons who are based on Sam de Jong his birds belong to the best pigeons from Holland. Ofcourse we also have Jan Theelen, Kuipers Bros and Hagens Bros but because they sell many many more pigeons than Sam de Jong there are more pigeons from those lines in the race so its normal you read more of this strains. If you can find the results of Sam de Jong, Nico Volkens, Jan Roelofs, Cees Niesten and Raymond Moleveld, put them together and you be suprised how many top results these 5 fanciers won with the same lines of pigeons. And than you must know what I write before, Sam has a small loft have maybe 12 breeding pairs but they were absolute fantastic in the years 1990 to 2002. Because some people from the "Land with the rising sun" buy his best breeders he don't have the same quallity of pigeons anymore. Thats also the reason why Sam now come to me for some pigeons from his old strain because I never sold them and my breeders are closer to his old breeders than his own stockbirds. You must believe me, I don't say this for my own goodness I think it is so.
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Q3: WHAT WOULD HE SAY IS THE BEST COCKS OR HENS FOR THE LONGER RACES 500+ MILES AND WHY???? A3: I race my pigeons natural because than I can race my hens and cocks. I think that a hen will finish better when it is a very hard race. When the pigeons are good motivated than I think it make not so much difference what they are. My Brive and St.Vincent winners are both cocks and raced on a youngster of 7 or 8 days. The two birds who came together from Barcelona in 2002 were a hen and a cock. Mont de Marsan was in 2002 a very hard race and "Shady" . a hen, was my first pigeon and win the 17nd National against 7425 b. Q4: hi stuart could you ask raymond if he uses preventitive medications, and if so which ones and why. A4: I don't use preventitive medications but I always ask my veterinary if my birds needed some medication yes or no. I am lucky that my veterinary, Drs Hans van de Sluis, lives at 10 minutes from me so its easy to visit him. If he say you must do this or that than I do that. Three weeks before the first great race I visit him and sometimes I give then something against cancer. When the season is started most of the times I do nothing. What I do is give Belgasol from Drs Henk de Weerd afterthe pigeons come home. Its a liquid with electrolites so the pigeons recuperate faster.
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Oke, I will try to answer the questions. Maybe you must read my answer 2x because my english is not 100%. Q1: I would like to hear Raymond's views on vaccinating against Paratyphoid. Does he vaccinate? A1: I do vaccinate my pigeons for Paratyphoid. Before I give them a liquid for 3 weeks and than I vaccinate them. If you give the liquid before the vaccination is not so heavy for the birds. Q2: what sort of distances are those for him? I would be interested to hear his views on how he conditions his birds for the distance? 550 miles plus including feeding and training? what does he look for in his familiy of birds? A2: Brive = 520 miles, St.Vincent = 670 miles, St.Quentin = 210 miles and Gennep = 100 miles. I only race my pigeons natural and give them all day the food that they want. Two times a day I let them out and they must train. I the beginning some pigeons stay on the nest but if they understand what I want them to do they train for 1 hour. I give Mariman race food with the red corn and I also give my pigeons peanuts. Before a big race I go to my veterinary and he take a look if my birds don't have anything bad. In make my longdistance family with pigeons van Sam de Jong from Heemskerk and Antoon Ligtenberg from Steenbergen, based on the Jan Aarden strain. Before I buy pigeons I do a good investigation about the birds. The best thing to do is buy pigeons who are from a good racing family and were the breeders are also based on the same lines. I am very succesfull with grandchildren from "De Ligtenberg" and "Don Leo" In all my best racers you find those pigeons in the pedigree. It is not only luck that they are in the pedigree's they must have quallity and give this to there children and grandchildren.
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Hello, I read the questions and I will try to answer them. I was allready started but the moment I will send some answers my connections was bat and I loose everything I just write. So now I do it different, I write it in a Word-document and than I make a copy to this site. If something go wrong than I don't have to started again. But now its time to go to bed because we live at 23.12 h now. Sleep well I give some answers as soon as possible. Raymond
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I am sure the person who buy this pigeon will be very happy. We do our best to bring quality pigeons to England and I am glad that I get so many compliments from people who visit our auction in Rayleigh and our stand on the shows in Telford and Aberdare. Its motivating me do breed pigeons for the english fanciers who see that we bring quality. Let us know if you have nice results with our pigeons because that is what we realy like to know. Thanks for the trust in our birds and from the other side of the sea I wish everybody good luck with your pigeons. Raymond Moleveld (Look a like of Ronald Koeman, Stuart say this)