biglad

don't know who s got them but vandenabeele's wittenbuik,koopman and van dyke all have van hove's best bloodlines crossed into them

you buy by reputation as do we all but remember you can buy the mans best but you buy the birds not the man and what works for him might not work for you

a pedigree is only as good and honest as the man that writes them ;)

roundabout! widowhood wastes good hens, on average hens beat the cocks don't think system suits cocks as much as hens

at last common sense

hermans must ave something they win all over but did nt do much in my area west durham amal soon culled out

go to a website on staf van reet by tom de martino but having said that sure its true all the top men swop pigeons

agree with jimmy white its pot luck some people win with them some don't try and go to your local best fanciers and as jimmy says the forum might just supply you with some really good stock

village lad the pigeon that topped the up north combine twice was through warren fosters birds on one side the dam was bought at a warren foster sale in barnsley.

ha ha you give them the corn and they eat what they want they ll gorge themselves at first but then they eat when they want and best thing about it,you can train them any time

you might not agree with this but two of the best pigeon men in the north hopper feed there hens so its at them all the time, try it see how much better they come and watch them exercise!

here here quite agree

try telling tray bros its crap they topping wda out of channel with pigeons bred out of sprinters 1 cock would'nt come from any farther than leicester(140 mls) yet brothers & sisters coming out of channel

brush on brush it out lime irradicates nasties old fashioned disinfectant

did'nt grondelear go to van reet? anyway just had a look at awebsite on van reet this tells us they're down through jansens half fabry lines and later on introduced a cock grote tom fro the the joseph soontjen loft.