swilcox

No problem mate!!! Stuart

I change my breeding pairings every year as i have found new pairs breed more vigorous young birds and i belief i benifit from having as many combinations as possible, of course if i stumble on a golden pair then i may keep them together, this is a system that i first read about in an article by Kipp and Sohn, does others do the same?? Stuart Wilcox

Chrissy Firstly "Losing" was probaly the wrong term but i was trying to reduce numbers by training hard and lets face it we use racing to do this to!!! Im a hard worker in pigeon racing and i believe pigeons need to work hard to!! Many people choose to cull excess numbers but i dont i just up the work rate and let the weak full away. If you ever came to my loft you will know my pigeons are treated better than my wife!! Chrissy you talk about the distance and direction i take them what do you think happens on a saturday when pigeons clash and go off line????? The only cruel people and negative image fanciers are those who race there pigeons without putting any work in!!!!! and blame everyone except themselves!! Jimmy and Nagrid When i started training these babies they were just pigeons but im amazed at what they have done and now i could describe everyone of them in detail. I can say i have a real bond with them and i just get the feeling there is a big winner in that little batch. All the best to everyone Stuart

Will be back in Essex year after next!!! That way everyone would have had a good chance to test the birds!!!! Stuart

Raymond Moleveld will be having an Auction in Lanarkshire on the 27th of October 2007. On offer will be children and g-children of his many champions and National winners. Its always been our intention to have an Auction in a different location each year and this year we have chosen Scotland due to the support we have enjoyed over the last two years. We have picked a super selection of birds which will be auctioned by myself Stuart Wilcox. All we ask is that you take the time to come along and view what we have on offer!!!! The rest is up to you. I hope to see as many people as possible!! All the Best Stuart Wilcox

Well Tammy If you have more than you need then you try and thin them out with the basket and thats what i was trying to do!!!!!! After 9 races i had still got 80% of my youngsters with most winning top prizes but as i had new breeding pairs i really didnt know how it was going to finish up, as it is im very happy to have a few to0 many as there performances have been very good!!! Stuart

Like the hamster this will go around and around and around!!

I bred 18 latebreds this year to cover me incase of losses, as it turn out i was well covered by my 1st too rounds. I have trained these birds in the last 3 weeks from Lulsgate, Weston Super Mare, Highbridge, Bridgewater, Wellington. Then Avonmouth, Newport and a single toss from Cardiff Then Yateley (in London) and this weekend 2 tosses from Poole. As you can tell i took them to work!! I must admit i was trying to lose them but considering they have been 60 mile SW, 50 miles west, 80 miles East and 50 miles SE and ive only lost one i get the feeling they will be my backbone for years to come!!! Its amazing what young pigeons will do when pushed. Stuart

Lot 2 still available!!!

Would love it ;D

Lot 3 sold Lot 2 is a smacker and still available, if you would like to make an offer your welcome via the PM service

I think my young birds have flown so well as anyones in the UK this year, im very proud and looking forward to the future!!!! Stuart

sold

lot 1 sold

Lot 1 2001 Blue Cock Sire Bred by Jan VD Pasch 1/2 brother to 1st Olympic Pigeon South Africa, this pigeon is inbred to Olympic Trutje Ace Pigeon of Holland 1996. Dam a double g-dtr of Den Dullen sire of 3 car winners. Lot 2 2000 Blue W/f Cock Sire Son of Olympic 775, 1st Prov Troyens and 6th Nat Ace Pigeon and t'bourgeske 1st NPO Bourges 1994 Dam Janine from the line of Smeulders Het Kanon, this is old original blood. Lot 3 2001 Blue Hen Sire Jack 2nd Ace Pigeon Limbourg and g-son of Superkweker, 1st Prov Orleans, his mother is Kampioentje 304 1st Ace Pigeon 1995. Dam a direct dtr of Bondskampion, 4 x 1st and Beste Young Pigeon is Holland. All 3 have bred winners inland and Nigel said they are very fast pigeons, there blood is full of the originnal Jac Ueberbach blood which is what made Van Den Pasch one of the best in the world. Stuart

sold

These 3 have all bred winners and have been mentioned in the BHW this year all £100 and from the best Jan Van De Pasch Janssens. Details will be put on tonight Stuart

This is the hen

Offered for sale by Ace National Flyer Nigel Templer, Nigel has sold part his land to Morrisions so some stock has to go to allow him to rebuild the breeding loft, these are all beuties NL 2002 Blue Cock Gaby Van Abeele Sire son of Wittenbuik Dam g-son Picanol Purchased Blekhorns auctions £100 for a g-son Wittenbuik.

Offered for sale by Ace National Flyer Nigel Templer, Nigel has sold part his land to Morrisions so some stock has to go to allow him to rebuild the breeding loft, these are all beuties. Dark Cock Belg 2000 Bred By Maurice Mattheeuws. Sire Son of Asduif 3 x 1sts Dam Zwarte Lady, his very best breeding Hen and dam of many winners. Bred loads of top pigeons this one. £100

Offered for sale by Ace National Flyer Nigel Templer, Nigel has sold part his land to Morrisions so some stock has to go to allow him to rebuild the breeding loft, these are all beuties. 2005 Cheq Hen Bred By Bert Braspenning and cost £500, Sire 1st Ace pigeon Natour 99 and 01. Dam Laguna. Best of breeding in this one. £100

Offered for sale by Ace National Flyer Nigel Templer, Nigel has sold part his land to Morrisions so some stock has to go to allow him to rebuild the breeding loft, these are all beuties. NL 2003 Cheq Cock Bred By Beverdam Sire Ceasar, Brother of Wonderboy 06 and 05. Dam Mama Cash 12th Nat Orleans from Blauwe 60 and Zuster 600. Cost £350 for sale at £100.

Mark Pigeon Basics is a great meeting place for fanciers and a great forum to make friends, im sure that the forum has helped cheer you up when you are down so stay on and put your mind into action, get involved with the threads and we will try to ignore you if you go off - line. ;D Stuart

Mate The biggest mistake you will make is giving up racing, people want to buy winning pigeons from winning fancier!!! Esp at the prices you are quoting!!! Hope you dont mind my input!!!! P.S. Hawk attacks are experienced by everyone, its something we all have to put up with!!!

All i will say is we are Pigeon Farmers!!, Cattle Farmers can protect there livestock by law, Defra have labelled pigeons livestock by law so the law says i can protect my livestock which are pigeons!!!!! Fight fire with Fire!!!!