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with the look of this week end forcast think il miss this week not wanting birds spending nights in basket to be then brought back home, funny this i logged on using new name and got my old name i use to use year a go lol.

george helped him few years back but not sure if he does now think most of his help comes from kenny's wife.

george helped him few years back but not sure if he does now think most of his help comes from kenny's wife.

well you are giving to much of it, to have them marked like that, it has ruined more lofts than any other suplement i no of

Up untill this year used chlocarb as it was best i had used, but this year used easytox from pigeon pharmacy and it worked a treat, so no more dipping for me.

I take it is the circle of adaptation we are talking about then is that right rose.

Once the time comes round bruno i sure you will be able to calculate what will be best for you. It would be ok if we were sure that the race was going to be a fair fly, but we cant there that much can go wrong, that is why it best to have few weeks between last set up race and desired race.

Thats the diference for myself and jimmy compared to rose, were rose can have a few races to choose from we have probly 1. Two at the most, the way the racing is now it can be big chance giving your birds the race it needs to close to its desired race, Have been saying for ages we in scotland are 5 year behind rest of U.K and they are 5 year behind the continent, but the rest of the uk are at least catching up. My last race for them use leicster 250 mile , then they would have 3 weeks to the gold cup race, and depending on the bird it would have maybe 200 mile training in between, use no bigger than 40 to 50 mile tosses, some may be 25m but i use dont go over 50m, that was way use to do it, but now we have midweek club can get maybe 2 dunbars that about 70 mile, then couple of 25 to 35 mile tosses. That is one of the reasons i hope we dont go to maidstone as lot of people use that race for gold cup. And to me it to dangerous a race to be so near gold cup race, to be used as set up race,

That be the circle of adaptation silv you talking about, the black or grey circle.

Lot depends on the bird itself, some need lot of road work some very little. Up here in west of scotland some people are giving the birds more races than useally because of the hawk problem, that way they dont need as much training, but percentage wise, own way is afer they finished there rearing i start training, paired up between 20th feb and 10th march, first race use 112 to 130 mile then i give 3 to four races in a row, miss week or two then like them to have race were they have 8 hours on the wing use 250 t0 320 mile race,.

What is this reputation thing you all talking about, as dont understand it.

Just read the managment recomadations for races 2006, only 1 i have problem with is maidstone, think it could just be to early for 370 mile in to our area, as we prob only had race of 170 mile by then and if you look at the results you will see very few yearlings on the west sec results most years, i think it risks the birdage not only for that race but also for rest of the races, others well may have had good races from maidstone, but i cant remember any, they use big losses from that race. Keep it at the distance we have just now, my main guess is some are thinking it gives others advantage the way it is just now and that advantage is not them, please think before you vote on this one. And no this should not be in the politics page this is a racing matter nothing else

HIms, you rite we all assume it y/b sickness wen it well may be something else, lot of the symptoms are the same, other thing we all logg it under y/b sickness have read about circa virus it deadly,

I agree to a certain lengh with jimmy, it is how they prepared that counts a lot, but some famlies are out and out sprinters, you may get one in a thousand score at distance were distance families would be say 20 in a thousand score.

Thanks silv and pigeon man glad someone new what i was trying to say, right enough even i dont no sometimes so u are excused carl lol