i was trying to sort it for strays,but,out of the whole of pigeonbasics,,,there was only 12,including me,willing to do anything,,,the rest did not even bother,,,,,,,the rest all moan and groan about stray pigeons and cost to return,,,,,,what are the moaners and whingers going to do now amtrak not here any more !!! more than likely moan and whinge about some one else instead of getting of your fat ar*es and do something,,,these are the pathetic ones...whinge,moan,groan !!!