this is why i gave up racing pigeons about 15/20 years ago,still backbiting and endless rows,i just have my many fancy pigeons for fun and enjoyment,no clubs,arguing,clock setting,ypm,etc,,,,,,no wonder young poeple not taking up sport,most fanciers on here are 100% genuinely helpfull,the very few are now turning it into a circus,,,,if cap fits and all that!!!!! for the genuine fancier YOUR ALL BRILLIANT,cull the rubbish on here? probably i will be culled now ??????