hi all fanciers T_T,,,,I have no family value/commitments,as for neighboursthey know better than pick on my pets,,a few found that one out,now no bother at all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as for racing again,you lot on pigeonbasics are very persuasive,shame on you haha,,,,,,,,started with 50/50 for,then 60/40 for,,,,NOW 80/20 FOR,,,,YOU LOT ARE TERRIBLE,WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH YOU LOT? SERIOUSLY,thank you all for the advice,it is much appreciated,,ted ps,anyone got pure white racers for sale,,,,cheap