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not enough ventilation strapper, could do with a few more vents on the side, but well built anyway .... lol

dont bare thinking about, pigeons are my life, think i would end up train spotting ... lol

nice and tidy setup greenlands

thanx guys the numbers are there so i can tell the wife what ones need cleaning, I WISH lol

here is mine,could do with a paint

thanx to all for the sound advice, will post in a few days time to say how the birds are doing, with a bit of luck they will be back on there feet. cant say more to you all but again THANK YOU Norman

cheers numpty, will try that and see how they get on

hi pigeonpete sorry for the late reply, i have workmen in, the birds have not been getting anything apart from food and water, i thought they would only need that when they got a bit older, you learn something new every day, will have to do something fast as i dont want to loss them after getting them this far, thanx for your advice..

its not just after feeding, they have both went down, and stayed down, they just cant get back on to there feet. just cant understand what has went wrong, i have hand reared youngsters in the past, and never seen anything like this, im just starting to worry that the birds are suffering now.

hi numpty01 the birds are 2 weeks old now, this problem just started the other day, one went down on its front and now today the same with the second one, up untill now they have been standing with no problems..

the birds are now 2 weeks old, and never had old birds sitting at the time i got these

good point m8 i have been filling there crops about three tines a day, they have gaind weight and size real fast, just hope its not to late to do anything with them, thanx for your advice, i think you might be right..

hi guys im looking for some advice, i have 2 youngsters i am having to hand rear, i got the birds at about six days old and they have both been taking food and water no problems, but yesterday one of them just droped on to its front and is having problems standing up, now today the second bird has done the same, could it be something they are not getting from me, that they might be getting from there parents?? im open to any advice to try and save these two birds.. thanx in advance .. Norman

SU08E280 Gifford I Imrie 01875 833238 Sorry cant help you with the 04 bird

Rambo ... lol

no but will save you a big fine if you get cought shooting them,, just trying 2 help

found this interesting web site tells you what you can and cant do with an airgun http://f4bscale.worldonline.co.uk/gunlaw.htm

good looking pup you have there, here is my jack at 8 weeks old, he is now 4 i also have a white and tan female, they spend all day with me at the lofts, and the birds dont mind. good choice of dog, they will never let you down..

if it can do that to a pigeon steve0, it might just take ur leg off if you kicked it .... LOL

R.I.P Billy our thoughts are with you and your family

no details listed for that bird, it just says to contact US1 ROYAL PIGEON RACING ASSOCIATION Please report to RPRA, Reddings House, The Reddings, Nr Cheltenham, Glos GL51 6RN. Tel: 01452 713529

GBO7X37371 SW114 WEYMOUTH H S Mr W Clark, 30 Cassiobury Road, Weymouth, Dorset DT4 7JN. Tel: 01305 785568

My Little Jack, with one of my best stock cocks ... lol

strange that, would have thought it would have the same effect on the rats, like i said aint seen a mouse in over a year now, looks like you might have to try the jack russels...... lol

i have 2 jacks out with me every day, and they used to chase the mice around the lofts, but the problem was the mice were there every day, thats untill i got myself a ferret. i just spread the ferret droppings around the back and underneith the lofts, now the dogs are redundent and just run about and play all day, not seen a mouse in over a year now.