Best pigeon I ever owned came via Louella 1999 staff van feet. Got him in a kit of six for 99£. As a young bird he won 3 1st club and 1 first fed yearling again 3 1st club 2first fed and as a 2year old 4 ,1st club 1 first fed. Champion turkey they named at the club because was a big young bird. Member said you will never win with him. He too big. Haha rest his history.