we have had the vereecke pigeons since 1989 they have been good honest pigeons they were good pure and crossed with other breeds but as i have not seen any direct bids for sale in the u.k. since Tony oats past away and not being confident enough to drive over to belgiam i have not be able purchase any new stock for a few years but as i say they have been good to us for many years and i will just have to keep looking p.s if anyone knows of any directs for sale please let me know thank you