all birds now gone thanks for all the responses and my apologies for not being able to help you all as I did say I would prefer them to go together if I sort any more out I will let you know once again many thanks
now I have my young Im prepared to let the old ones go to reduce numbers so if anyone can give a good home there is about 14 in total there is svr soontjons beverdam braspennings prefer to go in one lot to help someone else start but open to others