frank1

yes

yes also could u tell me some info on how yous set up for the first race with unc do u send with feds for so many races first

so for thee back lofts wots the distance from the first race ? and distance for front lofts cheers redcheqhen

Wot is the radius from front to the back lofts cheers frank

ME i agree with some of ur posts but if a vet test ur birds and it comes back possitive for salmonella then they have to alert defra by law wot would u do with birds infected with salmonella?

and wot does the cider vinegar protect

theres been lofts shut down by defra and all birds desposed off fact wot facts u got vet ME

u most keep chickens m8 u no alot about them by the sound of it

Prevention. Isolate newly introduced birds and if there is any doubt have faeces and mouth swabs cultured for Salmonella. Good loft hygiene will reduce spread within the loft and where a loft is known to be affected then an eradication and control programme, which will depend upon conditions in the loft and facilities etc., needs to be agreed with the attending veterinary surgeon. Cull any bird with joint disease

Generally speaking, you need to keep canker and cocci under control. You will find that by treating your birds every 6-8 weeks throughout the year (you need not worry if the parents are pumping youngsters as it will in no way harm them), neither of these two conditions will ever be of concern again. Ridzol will take care of the canker and Amperol will more than suffice for cocci. These two products can be safely used together. The dosage is 1/2 teaspoon of Ridzol plus 12.55 cc of Amperol per gallon of water. You would use these together for 3-5 days depending on the original count. Remember that both of these organisms are always present in the pigeon. The point is not to eradicate but only to keep at a manageable level that does not adversely effect performance. Remember neither of these drugs are antibiotics.

Protective effects of vaccines against experimental salmonellosis in racing pigeons E Uyttebroek, LA Devriese, D Gevaert, R Ducatelle, J Nelis, and F Haesebrouck Department of Avian Pathology, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University of Ghent, Belgium. Five inactivated and one attenuated vaccine produced for the prevention of salmonellosis in pigeons were compared in an experimental challenge model. The birds were vaccinated according to the recommendations of the manufacturers and they were infected by gavage with a Salmonella typhimurium (var copenhagen) pigeon strain. The challenged control animals showed severe weight loss, excessive water intake over a prolonged period, and excreted large numbers of salmonellae. None of the vaccines fully protected the pigeons, and only an inactivated oil adjuvant vaccine was able to reduce the severity of the clinical signs significantly. Mortality was low and tended to increase with the severity of the clinical signs. These results do not justify the preventive use of salmonella vaccination in pigeons. Nevertheless, the oil adjuvant vaccine may help in the effective cleaning of lofts after an outbreak of salmonellosis

ame: Enrofloxacin (Baytril) Description: Enrofloxacin is a synthetic chemotherapeutic agent from the quinolone class of drugs. It has antibactericidal activity against a broad spectrum of gram + and gram - bacteria. It is rapidly absorbed and penetrates all body tissues well. Usage: Enrofloxacin can be used with any bacterial infection showing susceptibility to the drug. Adverse reactions: Enrofloxacin causes increased mortality in the egg when the hen is treated during egg formation. It will cause cartilage abnormalities in growing squabs, especially during the 1st week to 10 days of age. This. however, is not always seen. Dosage: 5 - 10 mg/bird divided daily for 7 - 14 days. 150 - 600 mg/gallon for 7 - 14 days. Comments: Probably the best drug we have for the gram - infections of pigeons. It is the only drug shown to prevent recurrence of shedding in most cases of salmonella infection at 6 mg/pound for 10 days. We assume that this means the carrier state has been eliminated in these birds. The liquid water soluble form is not yet approved for use in the U.S. Because of the base used in the tablets, they are not soluble in water by any means

yes to see how many votes he gets

i nominate asha

no matter were you are racing from people will alwals think someone has an advantage or disavantage on longer disatnce races there is only one winner the best bird on the day only wot i think wether thats club fed or even amal level the only thing you can do is try your best

get the fed presidents numbers or secs numbers give them a call ask if they are intrested then arange a meeting between them all and hope for the best is that the way to take this forward then fifer thanks frank

and you can have full round of my stock birds

wot feds were involved

it was past ten i think 2minutes past but 50pound if not

35 pound

35pound

right we all no there a ten minute rule calm down now

so bigda would you be all for it then if it was proposed i certainly would be

25 pound

30 pou nd