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I sell should read 'I see ...' sorry for that! whoopsy well come on Roland if you cant spell see, we have a problem lol i dont doubt that massarella has champions and lots of them but ask the people who they purchased the birds off whether they regard it as a champion. Massarella are in the game for money nothing else at all they know very well that marketing a pigeon as a champion will increase the sales of its young.

Ian Gill had some crackers listed on here only a few weeks ago

Roland i was debating between my choice and yours, I have a lot of respect for Frank Bristow and it was out of him and Mick Betts. i dont know Mick Betts personally but Frank used to come and judge shows for us and is one of the true gents of the sport. he does nto always get the credit he deserves

Mick Betts

voted for pen our and thnt s a stormer but feel pen two is also

looed on the website mel although a nce pigeon getting it into uk may prove difficult, would be interested in some of the photo work done if you can do them from an original picture i take

sinking faster than the titanic more like

what do you think?

well it is all about opinion but i feel in some cases they use the term loosely not to say they have not owned champions but as i say sometimes its a loose term

ts a bt too far for me to travel will you be able to meet half way to save on cariage ;D ;D

Prefer my big Scottish flag that keeps the birds away for hours in disguist lol ;D

i disagree merlin, a champion is a pigeon that is sucsessful in either field be it racing, breeding or even for the showmen showing. if you can get a pigeon that breeds top pigeons after racing as well true it is a champion but i also feel a pigeon with 23X1st is a champion as it has excelled in its objectives set out by the owner. i feel this applies to breeding too a pigeon breeding many winners i feel deserves the title also. I do feel the term is used lightly nowdays maybe more so by the big studs ie massarella

i voted pen four Jimmy, what is the bird

I agree there is plenty of new fanciers on here mac1 should have had the birds all gone within a day. From the pictures these would be a good start for someone

Dovescot i know exactly what you are saying, red fox has his head screwed on for sure.

If the Culled birds were to be served in a pie or stew the PC brigad would not batter an eyelid, i agree though Fifer we cant let youngsters see this side of the sport

If spencer does not have any of the treatment i will send you for what i use. i have always been one for treating blind but am gradually getting it out of my routine now. when you find a good honest comapny for dropping testing you are sorted. lol im still looking.

if you go on elimar to the breeders section there is whites advertised on there, i forget what family though.

the pigeon will look gorgeous to you if it does its job i have several birds that were not to my liking they certainly are now

think its about 37.50 does it go down though with the more people in it

what age is he

i think for £30 it is a good gamble, look on elimar pigeons bidded up to £950, these 950 birds offer the same gamble as the ones Timbarra has offered just 920 cheaper. I am not saying these fvw on offer will be world beaters but very few people sell pigeons in the bhw for less than that many of these pigeons are advertised wit the champions line but it ends up being 6 generations back on the pedigree A great opportunity for someone

nothing wrong with fvw

vry interesting as if he does it for them suppose he may do also for the nfc and mnfc