Guest beautyhomer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 It has been brought to my notice that the ebay seller city_angling_centre_with_cornish_bait_company_england is selling fake rings.A member of the pigeon ring collectors club bought some from him and they are all fakes.He currently has a black 2009 ring from Bangladesh listed and I know for a fact that this year they are pink having received mine from Bangladesh direct. Any collector thinking of buying from him please be aware!
Guest numpty01 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 is that not redfoxs kruths mate who he was advertiseing on here and ebay??????
Guest chrisss Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 is that not redfoxs kruths mate who he was advertiseing on here and ebay?????? yep the one and the same 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8),it looks like some of the guys on this site were right about him
Guest numpty01 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 silly is al i can say :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 It has been brought to my notice that the ebay seller city_angling_centre_with_cornish_bait_company_england is selling fake rings.A member of the pigeon ring collectors club bought some from him and they are all fakes.He currently has a black 2009 ring from Bangladesh listed and I know for a fact that this year they are pink having received mine from Bangladesh direct. Any collector thinking of buying from him please be aware!why on earth do that ? seems ridiculous ,all that effort to make .. what ?? a few pounds . andy.
Guest numpty01 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 why on earth do that ? seems ridiculous ,all that effort to make .. what ?? a few pounds . andy. yes a few quid but if you have quite a few then it mounts up ????i wish i had put 5quid donateion for sobsb s in petition we would be rich i tell you rich rich and richer still ;D ;D ;Dbut think of all the other little scams going that mounts up to quite few bob
Guest shadow Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 they have been doing it for a few years begging for rings then selling the extras on e bay as well :( :( :(
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 Is there any professional organisation for Bangladesh pigeon racing where facts can be checked? That seller from what I saw sold two pink ones and now selling a black one. :-/
Guest chrisss Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 £5.98 a pop and i would like to know where he gets his rings from, as he appears to sell mainly fishing related stuff?,as for"Bangladesh pigeon racing" i think some of the ring collectors on here could or could not confirm the colour of this years rings?
Guest beautyhomer Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 Below is an extract from the email I received.As you can see the list of ring numbers look very doubtful.The only genuine looking one is from Iceland,perhaps Hogni could confirm this.Maybe he sent it to the seller??? ;D Hi Andrew, When this eBay seller from "In The Shop, England" had the set of rings listed I emailed the seller asking if he was a collector. His reply was "I recently received these rings and decided to see if I could sell some". He went on to say he was not a ring collector but would think about it. He sells a lot of fishing baits on eBay and this was his first listing of selling pigeon rings. Here is a list of the rings this seller sold me. I have inclued all the information on the rings. I have 2009 rings from over 30 countries and they are up in Canada. I do not remember what the correct color of the rings are. I do have my official FFC rings from Cuba for 4 years here at my house and 2009 is the color yellow with six digits for the ring number. The rings from Ali say BANGLADESH BAN and different color than black. Country Initials year ring # color Iraq IRAQ 2009 001 blue Bangladesh BAN 2009 003 black Cuba FCC 2009 00002 maroon Russia RUS SLSG 2009 00002 red Kazakstan K3 09 00003 black Zambia ZAMBIA 2009 2009 maroon Iceland ISL 2009 2431 black Paraguay PY 2009 227 red Egypt EGYPT FED 2009 22225 green India INDIA FED 2009 227 yellow Who ever ordeered these fake rings made likes lots of zeros and lots of twos. There are 16 zeros and 12 twos in the ten rings. You would think the person would be more thoughtful and use normal types of numbers. Well Andrew, I guess I will let you figure out who it is. The envelope the rings were sent in from England did not have a return address. Sorry I cannot help you better. Good luck. Kind Regards, John
Guest peter.j Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 well it looks to me as if red fox has been outed i do think some of the people who backed this poor defenceless 16 year old in previous arguments will have to eat humble pie,as the hes only a young boy thing wont wash any more its happening much to often j.m.h.o peter
Guest slugmonkey Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 I guess I need to look on E-Bay as I have 100s of old bands but I cannot belive someone would forge them wow!!!!
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 Just been off phone with Ben who was said he was surprised that he's been blamed for someone else selling the rings. Told me that the guy selling them bought the rings from Poland? I did tell him that he's the one getting labelled as the bad boy and advised him to distance himself from the guy who appears to be selling fakes? I did notice that that seller sold two pink rings from Bangladesh so not quite sure on whethere the colours in Bangladesh have suddenly changed or this guy really is a con artist?
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 Well done to the OP, Ben just text me saying he phoned the guy who is selling the 'questionable' rings. Apparently he now taking them off ebay and destroying them all so well done beautyhomer and well spotted, you've possible saved a lot of people a lot of money if they are indeed fake. Gave advice to Ben that he's the one getting the bad reputation and that it will stick with him for his days so I advised him to stay well clear of this chap or risk getting tarred with same brush, whether he'll take advice is another thing. :-/
Guest bigda Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 all very well coordinated then, phone calls, texts, culprits, then all destroyed ebay saved, but alas no names to the conman, load of "tripe "if you ask me and i could name they guy involved but don't want to upset his mum ??)
Guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 all very well coordinated then, phone calls, texts, culprits, then all destroyed ebay saved, but alas no names to the conman, load of "tripe "if you ask me and i could name they guy involved but don't want to upset his mum ??)Da, are you sure ?? andy.
Guest chrisss Posted July 11, 2009 Report Posted July 11, 2009 Just been off phone with Ben who was said he was surprised that he's been blamed for someone else selling the rings. Told me that the guy selling them bought the rings from Poland? I did tell him that he's the one getting labelled as the bad boy and advised him to distance himself from the guy who appears to be selling fakes? I did notice that that seller sold two pink rings from Bangladesh so not quite sure on whethere the colours in Bangladesh have suddenly changed or this guy really is a con artist? so surprised was he, that he could not come on site to tell us himself,but why were you on the phone to him?,how are you involved in all of this since you appear to know so much about it
Guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 I hope--more than anyone else- that Ben Starts fulfilling some promises he has made. He is getting to the age where he is finding out being a young ADULT is a hell of lot different than being a kid. He can;t hide behind "he is just a young kid" anymore. But Time Will Tell if he changes for the "Better". A promise made is a debt unpaid--until its kept/settled Hi Don, I'm not into bullying 16 year old kids so won't respond to the other posts made about him, the fact is it wasn't actually him who sold them it was someone he's in cahoots with. For the record of the inquisitive it was me who phoned him as I know he can't get access to the computer, or so he says and I have to take his word for it. I've never met Ben nor do I know him for anything other than a voice on the end of the phone but I like Ben, I think he's stupid and needs to think before getting involved with the wrong types, I guess its called caring. I told him that he is bound to get tarred with the same brush and that if he wants to maintain any credability in the pigeon world he simply has to seperate himself from this kind of behaviour. He actually text me and asked my if I'd apologise on behalf of the culprit but I'm not going to, that's for the culprit to do not me. All I did was look out of a young lad who has lost his dad recently and by the looks of it is losing his way, we as adults owe it to the misguided youth to try and teach then right from wrong. I do hope he learns lessons from all this nonsense because it will haunt him for the rest of his days if he doesn't. Fingers crossed for him heh, after all its not nice to be losing your dad at such a young age and clearly this lad is getting led astray by others. :-/
pjc Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 I clicked members center--to pill up some of Ben's past posts--His name came up RED--has he been blacklisted for some reason--may be why he can not/did not reply om this site. I have swapped rings with Ben for the last 4-5-6 years and he has been very fair sending rings back.But I have seen/noticed a change in him . His e-mails are even different--I got the feeling things were not the Best as they could be. I'm just Glad I'm not a young man or lady trying to get things started in this World we are living in today. Its getting where I HATE to watch the World News about world problems. His names in purple, but maybe his face is red!
Guest beautyhomer Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 REDFOXKRAUTHS last made a post on the 9th July so for him to say he cannot get on the computer is not true.
Guest ShaneGate Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 I blame you lot on here for spoling the lad,you let him get away with murder, sad really,he will have a hard life in front of him with his actions,,but like i said,you lot are to blame,you let him do and act as he pleased,and his disgraceful attitube to certain old timers on here who tried to help him was way out of order,to late now,but kids must have perimeters they know the should not cross sadly most of you jokers on her were never brought up right,just dragged up,and it shows.
Guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 REDFOXKRAUTHS last made a post on the 9th July so for him to say he cannot get on the computer is not true. beautyhomer Ben said it was his computer he could not get on, but did tell me one time he used his friends computer to get on once when he had problems but to be honest who knows with kids these days? As I said to Don in a p.m, I'm not out to beat the crap out of a young boy who's lost his dad and perhaps his way in life. My duty is better served trying to put him on the right path, others will be quick enough to throw stones. The problem with some is they have never been through rough times and have never done anything wrong in life so have never needed help, I have and help only came from myself but I sure as hell could have done with some when I was young, it would have saved me a lot of pain and grief. Doing a postmortem on Ben isn't the right thing to do, he isn't even the one to blame in this instant, ironically its always the same on here, certain people jump in at any chance they have and start throwing mud at the Ben's of this world and treat him as guilty by association libelling him in the process, its those people I feel sorry for not Ben as they are old enough to know better and probably have more to hide than Ben ever will; its also what is pulling this forum down from a once respected place to one most people avoid like the plague. Ben has two choices from the way I see it, he listens and learns and becomes a better man for it or continues the way he is and ends up justifiably condemned; His call not mine as I've done about as much guiding as I can. :-/ Shanegate, for someone who's apparently come on here as a newcomer you have a lot to say for yourself and come across as sanctimonious *expletive removed*, you remind me of someone who's posted on here before, just can't put my finger on who yet. My advice to you is if you want to preach to your new found congregation at least wait until you've been accepted by the community you preach to, coming on here with such forceful opinions is hardly likely to do you any favours. :-/ :-/
Guest ShaneGate Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 :P 8) 8) 8) : : : :X :X :X :'( :'( :'( :(
Guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Posted July 12, 2009 :P 8) 8) 8) : : : :X :X :X :'( :'( :'( :( Thanks Asha, you just confirmed who you are.
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