having read last year of member DKJ racing un- trained birds, and Peter Pandy trying it out . i thought (not dis-believing) i could only really learn from this by trying it myself . so fool hardy as it may seem i bred a few late breds . Mr Hawk took one , and the 3 remaining are away tonight . in all fairness 3 may not be a lot , and they have been in the basket once before , for just 20 minutes whilst awaiting vaccination . so it will be interesting to see the out-come . what do you guy,s thin