what do u think!!!

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

hi all as some of you know im new to the sport and have to say i loving every min but as we all know pigeon racing is a dyeing sport. Whats every ones view on a petition to be sent to the rpra about more being done in the way of promoting the sport surely these companies who are cashing in on the sport through selling feed and equipment etc could do some form of advertising whether it be on tv or radio just something, as i have seen on here pigeon fanciers across the country help many charities but get no recognition for that witch is very wrong. Surly if we got enough signatures letters etc and forwarded them to the rpra they would have to act on it im willing to do what i can to help the sport is any one else willing. Maybe if we said unless something is done we dont buy 09 rings lets try and do something guys and gals what do u all think.

 

ps please dont all cave in on me its just an idea!

[883girl]

Yep I think that is a great idea.  I especially think we should promote it to the younger ones.  Really is a great thing for them to be involved in and gives them something to be responsible for.

 

Go for it I would sign it ;D

[pjc]

Prob is without 09 rings etc there will be no yb racing!

The RPRA prob make very little from ring sales but it would hurt the sport more than it would the RPRA as members would have still paid there union fees!

I do agree something needs to be done but should be done via presure from club, feds, and regions towards the RPRA.

 

 

Phil

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

phil where does the rpra main revenue come from as thats what needs to be hit for this point to be made

[Guest shadow]

It has been tried for many years to encourage youngsters into the sport but they are not prepared to look after livestock 365 days of the year when they can sit in the warm and amuse themselves with little effort, used to tour the schools with the birds etc and had one young lad turn up in 20 years he packed in after 18 months so what is the answer.

the sport is now expensive, is not a level playing field.

[pjc]

main revenue comes from membership subscriptions, but if you don't pay those you are then a defaulter and will get suspended!

 

They have got people over a barrell!

If nobody donated birds to the charity sale or visited Blackpool 1 year that would hit them harder than anything!

 

Phil

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

What if next years blackpool show was used  to make a stand on this and see what comes of it is anyone interested in doing that pigeon basics could have a stand with as many members as possible to try and make an impact there.

[pjc]

Good idea!

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

Someone has mention on here not so long ago about the 2012 olympics why not try and get some thing arranged for a charity race in aid of this and see whether we could have a mass liberation on the day the events start could help as its a worldwide event

[OLDYELLOW]

Here goes .................... Pigeon racing will never be a sport as there is more than one governing body , the whole infra-structure needs to change , we need all the unions to combine you can keep the su. gb. n.w.u and nehu rings , but have one central office , this would be cheaper to run and we would have one union . How many transporters are on the road many with greater capacity than they take yes we all pay for the empty space would this not benifit all ? I think we would all benifit from a organised racing programme to stop the clashing of birds . Club  / fed races should be down to the federations as are current and all channel racing where appropiate should be combine into 3 divisons i.e eastern side western side and central taking into account of the existing fed boundarys. As for pigeon racing dying go to Blackers it's alive and kicking , but we need to move with the times or the nails will be out for the coffin. Many fanciers get disheartened by young bird losses but if clubs got together to train there would be far less losses , let ybs out late at night , train later on in day as race birds should be away by then and not clean your loft up when they pass.

[Guest spin cycle]

It has been tried for many years to encourage youngsters into the sport but they are not prepared to look after livestock 365 days of the year when they can sit in the warm and amuse themselves with little effort, used to tour the schools with the birds etc and had one young lad turn up in 20 years he packed in after 18 months so what is the answer.

the sport is now expensive, is not a level playing field.

 

shadow is right. if there is an answer i think we have to build from the grassroots up. start clubs , grow clubs , help/recruit new starters (but not cajole as it is a 365 day hobby) and take pleasure in doing so. thats how i got recruited/started and i'm the first of four our founder members have started in 3 years. not all will stick it as it is a tough hobby. don't hold out to much hope of the rpra starting to many lofts...i bet this site has generated more. this site and others like it give the sport its future. i'll still sign you petition though and ask the rpra to start a 'novice club' for new staters with practical newsletters and a dedicated webpage.

[pjc]

Agree Oldyellow, but another thing to add is the number of clubs should be reduced, 1 club in 1 area with no member refused membership forceing people to work together, making for bigger clubs and reducing the overheads!

 

Phil

[OLDYELLOW]

hit the nail on the head phil if loft in your catchment then no reason to disallow

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

why is that the fanciers have some many  opinions on how this sport could be improved but nothing has been done this is what im finding hard to understand

[Guest spin cycle]

Agree Oldyellow, but another thing to add is the number of clubs should be reduced, 1 club in 1 area with no member refused membership forceing people to work together, making for bigger clubs and reducing the overheads!

 

Phil

 

sorry phil, but you make the assumption that people want to fly their pigeons more than spend their freetime with people they dislike and it isn't neccesarily true. your proposal would kill my club stone dead and the next club is 35 miles away. i don't want to argue so i'll not post again on this thread  

[pjc]

because there are to many dinosaurs at region and council who block change. If any forward thinking propositions are put forward then some on region etc throw there toys out of the pram and threaten to stand down, like sheep the others follow and the propositions get voted out!

It won't change until its to late or the RPRA is run in a different way!

[pjc]

Spin Cycle, just putting my point, there would be many like you that have a distance to travel to there clubs but areas would need to be set to suit as many as possible.

We show as well as race, the club we show with mainly is 2 1/2hrs drive for me, if you want to compete then you will go where you need to go!

 

Phil

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

if everyone concerned was to have there say surely something could be put in place that would suit the majority the underlining factor here is we all enjoy pigeons and flying them so something surely can be done to improve this  

[pjc]

there are to many against change that want, and are happy to race in there club of 5 members being afraid of competition!

[OLDYELLOW]

perhaps webmaster or someone could run a pole for one governing body? and another for 3 national sections for channel racing ? everyone voting and putting there name club / federation and union down would be interesting

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

so the sport no matter how much we try to make it better will always be in decline until its no more.  I will just enjoy it while i can then, u  can see why some many people leave the sport!

[Guest peter.j]

 

sorry phil, but you make the assumption that people want to fly their pigeons more than spend their freetime with people they dislike and it isn't neccesarily true. your proposal would kill my club stone dead and the next club is 35 miles away. i don't want to argue so i'll not post again on this thread  

whos to say the club 35 miles away wont come to you?

 

[pjc]

How many times have you heard of clubs merging in harmony to form 1 decent club or feds getting together to fill transporters?

It just doesn't happen.

 

An example, we fly in a fed in South Wales, there is another boardering fed north of us, if the birds were liberated together returns and clashing would be reduced. Everybody agrees this at the meetings but when it comes to racing all changes, if there is south in the wind the southern members don't want to liberate togeter and if there north in the wind the northern fed don't wat to go up together!

Harmony!

 

Phil

[OLDYELLOW]

in my view that would be fine to have seperate liberations of different feds from same race points never said that they would all go together or would wish it , im a dreamer not a insane maniac lol

[wings]

Agree Oldyellow, but another thing to add is the number of clubs should be reduced, 1 club in 1 area with no member refused membership forceing people to work together, making for bigger clubs and reducing the overheads!

 

Phil

 

I fully agree with you PJC to many small clubs when there could be 1 bigger club, the only problem is that new starters will can easily get disheartened when never in the prizes, maybe they should have races within races to avoid this.

i will gladly sign anything that will help keep this great sport going.