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My club has just been refused an 'Awards for all claim' on the grounds that we are affiliated to the RPRA. However, we did not tell them. There is other clubs within the RPRA who have been successsful.........question is, how did they become successful in their claim???

Any advice welcome

 

( I want ETS, but i aint buying it)LOL  ;)

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Main reason for clubs being turned down is there own rules or stateing they abide by the rules of the RPRA which allows for non acceptance of member applications!

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My club has just been refused an 'Awards for all claim' on the grounds that we are affiliated to the RPRA. However, we did not tell them. There is other clubs within the RPRA who have been successsful.........question is, how did they become successful in their claim???

Any advice welcome

 

( I want ETS, but i aint buying it)LOL  ;)

 

will it make you feel better if you grass them off for getting there ets eh :'( :'( its called tufff shi-tty

 

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i had some exp. of lottery grant applications before i started in pigeons. when i joined my club the subject of applying arose but i said little as i thought that because we had a radius we would fail the 'inclusiveness' test (basically the club would have to be open to anyone). as it turned out i think the rpra's own rules on propose/second membership also mean clubs  fail and as they are part of the compulsory rules i can't see a way round it at present. clubs were getting grants but i think someone in the 'anti ets' told the lottery board ( something in VFTR last year i think) (and  it wasn't me). there may be a solution by having a rule that 'as long as a club stays within the law it can opt out of the compulsory rules' . this would enable progressive clubs to modify membership rules to make them eligible for lotto grants....but it may also allow clubs with 25 members or less to opt out of ets. this is very much my 'take' on the situation and as such may not be accurate...i'm sure someone will correct me :)

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will it make you feel better if you grass them off for getting there ets eh :'( :'( its called tufff shi-tty

 

yeh, thanks for that, my 11 year old daughter comes on here,

I was asking for advice, not stupid comments,

thankfully this site has 99% good members.

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you can be affiliated to a larger organisation, BUT you must have your own set of CLUB rules, and one thing on them Must be if you disband your club , anything left after settlement will go to another organisation similar to yours,

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fifer is 100% correct i know...they refused us last year on this...this year we won our grant...still members wasnt satisfied.  i did everything by myself and won us it..as sec...  guess who wont be doing it again for the club.

we spent our grant this last week.

a secretarys job is a thankless one.

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. However, we did not tell them. There is other clubs within the RPRA who have been successsful.......your words mate what is it you want to say to the lottery about this  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :( :(

take it on the chin mate your getting sweet fa and i can under stand why :):D :D :D

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. However, we did not tell them. There is other clubs within the RPRA who have been successsful.......your words mate what is it you want to say to the lottery about this  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :( :(

take it on the chin mate your getting sweet fa and i can under stand why :):D :D :D

peaple seeem to think the sports councle and awards for all are stupid they are not if you failed to disclose information thats youer lot as it should be rpra or not and if they find out you missled them on any award they will demand award back if for transportateion or anything else to do with club

 

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yea the drums are beating for a few in wales I'm told

 

is that true Chris, even after 2 years and some one reports them

who will have to foot the bill, is it the club or the one who filled in the forms  :'( :'( :'( :'( :X :D :D

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the club or federation who applied for the grant would be responsible as there will be a have been more than one person having signed the application as well as it haveing been proposed at meetings etc.

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dose it carry a custodial sentence, is it fraud, if  its not declared :'( :'(

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time will tell, but do you think Loto or Awards for all will want a transporter parked in there car park or a cupboard full of T3's and ETS?

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time will tell, but do you think Loto or Awards for all will want a transporter parked in there car park or a cupboard full of T3's and ETS?

 

no i should think not but sold at auction they will be following dicussion with member of councle myself and 10 other fanciers  and one fed pres it seems they are more than unhappy the way applicatios are made and when applycations are sorted and confirmed heads will in deed role  watch this space  as they say

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time will tell, but do you think Loto or Awards for all will want a transporter parked in there car park or a cupboard full of T3's and ETS?

 

no but the laws is the law and it says at the bottom of there forms

is this a true statement , and in there Constitution and how it is governed   :X :X  hope they like porridge

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do you know of any false claims chris, there might be reward

money going about for all afterall ;D ;D ;D ;D

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do you know of any false claims chris, there might be reward

money going about for all afterall ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

sorry im not in it for reward only honesty  as i spent 1000s on my perants house as athuitys are ripped of by peaple who scam leaving problems for peaple who are gen  just the same as grants will end up peaple who lie to gain while others lose fair i dont think so??

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sorry im not in it for reward only honesty  as i spent 1000s on my perants house as athuitys are ripped of by peaple who scam leaving problems for peaple who are gen  just the same as grants will end up peaple who lie to gain while others lose fair i dont think so??

 

there are not dishonest men in wales are  they Chris,    Nigel's :)

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did one of your feds chris get help for a transporter so they can ferry

birds for all of wales  i think i seen that some where  :)

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let me know when the sale, of recovered goods are to be sold, and how Manny ets systems,  that  are recovered, and how many transporters our fed is looking to buy, two used ones  will do us  :)

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