ghostrider Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Theres an old saying..you can purchase birds of a champion flyer,but not the man that wins with them!In these hard times,the ordinary working man,cannot afford these high prices for pigeons.like many of you out there,you own some decent birds.But if you are/was like me,are on the lookout for something to better your own.9/10 IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.The best birds i have found,are from good friends,we swap,youngsters,or borrow good stockbirdsand vise/versa...(((may i add not in the same parts of the country tho))that way we can try them out,and save ALOT ,if at all they dont score for you,you aint wasted heaps of hard earned cash. Atb
gulkie Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Theres an old saying..you can purchase birds of a champion flyer,but not the man that wins with them!In these hard times,the ordinary working man,cannot afford these high prices for pigeons.like many of you out there,you own some decent birds.But if you are/was like me,are on the lookout for something to better your own.9/10 IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.The best birds i have found,are from good friends,we swap,youngsters,or borrow good stockbirdsand vise/versa...(((may i add not in the same parts of the country tho))that way we can try them out,and save ALOT ,if at all they dont score for you,you aint wasted heaps of hard earned cash. AtbI see your point ,but if you buy the best u can the rest is down to you.As you say I have had most of my best birds from my friends. Even The most expensive birds come with no garentee.i used to play golfI bought the best clubs I could afford them I realised it was me that was Crap.
OLDYELLOW Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 A pigeon is only as expensive as your willing to pay for it The old ways of swapping is the best way to get decent pigeons without the big price tags Most lofts have good birds
Guest Owen Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Way back in time you would do well financially out of pigeons mainly by the proceeds of winning races. These days there is little or no money in winning races so if you want to balance the books you have to sell birds.The problem is that there are so many people at it that people will get lumbered with rubbish a lot of the time. The real answer is to do what I have done, breed your own and select hard only breeding from the best you have. Then test your birds thoroughly on the road so that every bird you have is proven to be able to do the job. Never breed late breds, never buy unproven birds and check to make sure that birds you buy from people you don't know are genuine.
blaz Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 Way back in time you would do well financially out of pigeons mainly by the proceeds of winning races. These days there is little or no money in winning races so if you want to balance the books you have to sell birds.The problem is that there are so many people at it that people will get lumbered with rubbish a lot of the time. The real answer is to do what I have done, breed your own and select hard only breeding from the best you have. Then test your birds thoroughly on the road so that every bird you have is proven to be able to do the job. Never breed late breds, never buy unproven birds and check to make sure that birds you buy from people you don't know are genuine. don,t breed late breeds ? why do you say not to breed late breeds.
Beanz Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 In my opinion no young bird is worth more than £25 too many things can go wrong,sickness lost off loft before you can try it, hawks and the big one is 95 out of hundred are crap. Paul
Guest Owen Posted October 23, 2013 Report Posted October 23, 2013 blazWhere livestock and growing are concerned I think it is always better to work out a routine that gives you the best results and try to stick to it. Farming and horticulture have worked on those principles for years. Obviously there are occasions when there has to be adjustments and changes as new ideas result in changes in practises.I like to routinely pair my birds in January and take two rounds from them and stop at that. I will allow them to stay together for a further couple of months but that's it. They are split up and left to rest in aviaries until the next breeding season.I want my breeding pigeons well rested and fit to give me the best youngsters I can get. If I leave the birds paired up and breeding I find that I have youngsters that I can not train with the main bunch so they miss training and they miss races. The result of the inevitable late youngsters are birds that are under trained and do not give me the best results racing and I would not breed from them because I have well proven breeders to do that job. So unless there is a very good reason to keep latebreds such as to start a new family or line I see no benefit in the practice at all. Perhaps there will be people who do not like my single minded ways but I would group late youngsters in the same group as unraced pigeons. Best avoided unless you have a very sound reason to experiment with them.
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