Brokamp

[Guest maricelbill]

now here's your chance bernie. these birds around a good few years now are they making inroads into the distance races. the international winner last week was one. the machine mainly one also. mark gilbert has them.

[Wiley]

You'd have to break the bank to afford them also.

[Guest maricelbill]

i'm irish ryan. breaking banks comes naturally to us lol actually the marshalls although booked up weren't overly priced nor were the grandchildren of the machine from ian stafford. what sort of money did they make on pipa when he sold direct children?

[Wiley]

Brokamp is only part of the Machines Story bill, you'll know the other half is an Aaelbrecht De Rauw Sablon. A very big mistake I feel I made, I was offered the Aaelbrechts and De Rauw Sablons in 07, when a good friend of mine had bought them in, but I turned them down as I was and still am enjoying my sprinting at the time. But I wish I'd have tried them as when you get to the 400,500, 600 miles in a head wind requires a different type of pigeon.

[Guest maricelbill]

it's a topic i have broached with that other young gun on here rooster j. some good distance pigeons in scotland so it will be interesting to see how the brokamps and sablons do against them when they get a foothold as they surely must. yes i knew the other half of the machine is albrecht. i do know fanciers who brought in the sablons 4 and 5 years ago and didn't like them. but you need to do more than dip your toe in the water. if it is real distance you want to specialise in a regular basis in the classics etc in then it requires a different pigeon and an entirely different mindset. you are dead right ryan. it comes to everyone in the end that progression away from the sprint middle. although mark bulled is having a right crack at both at the minute.

[Wiley]

With distance pigeons Bill, as you know if the fanciers who had them never gave them the years, they'd never know. Sprint birds in my opinion should if good enough score every year, but with some of the distance pigeons I played with when we was soley concentrated on Lerwick, wouldn't show anything till 2 years old. But the flame may have been lit again. Going from a team of sprinting where success should be instant to a team of distance pigeons requires patience, patience in waiting for the birds for 10 hours plus, and patience for them to gain enough experience before they really start to excel. I think sprint pigeons are very quick maturers the opposite can be said for distance birds in my opinion.

 

Regarding Mark Bulled in my opinion his one of the best this country has seen an exceptional fancier

[Guest maricelbill]

they do tend to improve with a little age though always the exception does appear. yb races and the best part of the ob season are too short for them which explains a lot of the time factor. a fancier in cumbria who has the brokamps several years now from clive lister tell me they are a small pigeon. it seems to be the way now that an entirely new type of pigeon has emerged. i watched a documentary last night it caught my eye as i was flicking through the usual rubbish, it was about fish and the various types of tail. how one type was good for turning, another for speed etc. i reminded me totally of wing theory and something i will now look at more closely. with the influence of fanciers pigeons develop much quicker and differently than they would left entirely to nature. and with the trend now to repeatedly cross sprin pigeons into distance stock it's all becoming quite fascinating at a time when the sport is dying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

With distance pigeons Bill, as you know if the fanciers who had them never gave them the years, they'd never know. Sprint birds in my opinion should if good enough score every year, but with some of the distance pigeons I played with when we was soley concentrated on Lerwick, wouldn't show anything till 2 years old. But the flame may have been lit again. Going from a team of sprinting where success should be instant to a team of distance pigeons requires patience, patience in waiting for the birds for 10 hours plus, and patience for them to gain enough experience before they really start to excel. I think sprint pigeons are very quick maturers the opposite can be said for distance birds in my opinion.

 

Regarding Mark Bulled in my opinion his one of the best this country has seen an exceptional fancier