Double Back Toe

[demolition man]

Your thoughts on one of my stock hens, She got two back toe's, it's not due to inbreeding

[OLDYELLOW]

was it born like that or is it a recent growth ????

[David_vet]

Your thoughts on one of my stock hens, She got two back toe's, it's not due to inbreeding

 

I would assume that it has to be a congenital defect that have a genetic component or some other factor that affected development in the egg.

 

Did you notice this soon after hatching? I could understand that it may have been too small to notice as a youngster. Is the toe firmly attached to it's normal counterpart and can you feel any bone in it?

 

Very interesting,

David

[Guest joshdonlan]

im sure i can see a toe nail on it aswell very strange

 

does she breed youngsters like that?

[demolition man]

was it born like that or is it a recent growth ????

 

 

born with it

 

im sure i can see a toe nail on it aswell very strange

 

does she breed youngsters like that?

 

 

No

[OLDYELLOW]

just a gentic default , if breeding good birds i wouldnt be worried however it could reoccur later in the next generation or further away

[demolition man]

just a gentic default , if breeding good birds i wouldnt be worried however it could reoccur later in the next generation or further away

 

 

I bred one for Adam Owen from her on basics that won 10th Welsh National Veloicity in the 900, So its my new feet theory for breeding

[OLDYELLOW]

I bred one for Adam Owen from her on basics that won 10th Welsh National Veloicity in the 900, So its my new feet theory for breeding

lol nowt to worry about then lol

[fletch]

strange but nothing to worry about

[Guest homestead]

it doesn't talk does it my african grey has 2 back toes

[Guest IB]

I met a guy at Uni a good while back who had an extra finger growing out from the middle of a normal one. And he could move it. I think these sort of minor birth defects are just something that's gone wrong during eary development.

 

I'd an unpleasant surprise myself this year when about to ring a 5/6 day old youngster in the nest: the outside and back toes were webbed together, both of them were in the outside toe position; a small polyp was growing on the inside of the middle toe, it was completely transparent and looked like the end of a toe (pad) with a tiny white curved toenail growing out of it. The parents were not related, so wasn't a product of inbreeding.

 

The other foot was normal, and I decided to put the ID ring on that one so that if I did decide to work on the other foot ringing it afterwards wouldn't affect, or be affected by healing. I had a good look at the defective foot later: the polyp had no blood vessels - looked just like a blister, except for that tiny toenail, which appeared to have started growing from the surface, then just stopped? Toes were not fused, there was a largish web of skin between them, and when I pulled toes slightly apart, there was a definite line on the skin well away from the bones of the toes marking the end of one toe and the beginning of the other, couldn't see any connecting blood vessels across that line (blanched white when I pulled) and seemed enough spare skin to allow cut ends to heal if I snipped along it.. Only thing I was worried about was would that back toe go back to its proper position?

 

Sterilised a small pair of scissors, and a couple of snips seperated toes, poured antispetic over the wound and dabbed it with cotton pad till blood stopped, snipped polyp where it met toe and did same. Back toe went behind foot OK, and I put a finger between them just to check it would straighten out, put youngster back in nest and left nature to run its course. Didn't take long to do and although I didn't find experience pleasant I considered the alternative even more unpleasant.