ventilation

[Guest karl adams]

is it possible to put to many vents in a loft for ventilation  or would more be better

[Frazer]

My lofts got vents running the length of the loft you cant have enough in my opinion always plenty of fresh air flowing through birds look well on it.

[OLDYELLOW]

cant have too much ventilation but i feel you need to be able to regulate air in your loft , as long as you havent got draughts your birds will do well

[Guest frank dooman]

is it possible to put to many vents in a loft for ventilation  or would more be better

 

yes if too many and in the wrong place 1 will cancel the other out thats the mistake allot of fanciers make a vent will only draw 1 mtr into the loft thats fact

[mark proctor]

 

yes if too many and in the wrong place 1 will cancel the other out thats the mistake allot of fanciers make a vent will only draw 1 mtr into the loft thats fact

 

what do you mean it will draw 1 mtr in the loft m8? cheers mark.

[Guest frank dooman]

 

what do you mean it will draw 1 mtr in the loft m8? cheers mark.

 

take it that you have a vent at low level and 1 at the top the  air will go in a half circle from bottom vent to top vent but the furtherst it will go into the loft/space will only be 1mtr now if you have a space at the roof on front/back of the loft as most do the down draft will be greater than the air entering at the bottom so you could get no airflow and i will ask the same ques. as i did on the other thread a few weeks ago what is the difference between a draft and ventilation maybe 1 of the mods could put up the link to the other thread

[mark proctor]

 

take it that you have a vent at low level and 1 at the top the  air will go in a half circle from bottom vent to top vent but the furtherst it will go into the loft/space will only be 1mtr now if you have a space at the roof on front/back of the loft as most do the down draft will be greater than the air entering at the bottom so you could get no airflow and i will ask the same ques. as i did on the other thread a few weeks ago what is the difference between a draft and ventilation maybe 1 of the mods could put up the link to the other thread

 

cheers for that frank m8...i just dont think the air flow is right in my loft..i have a blakes loft..if youve seen one m8...a gap at the front top...a gap at the back top...and a air vent ( loover on each door)...some one told me the air flows not right...i dont no frank....had some trouble with the darky young birds this year.... :( :( :(respo,,,was thinking on getting some chimnys on the roof m8...

[Guest frank dooman]

that would help go get some of the mushroom vent covers that plumbers put on the top of roof vents and the same no of slate pieces and get your self 6ft 4" plastic pipe thats the cheapest way i had my own plumbing busness and even with my discounts the price of the proper tile vents was over £50 quid a go and  get a couple of tubes of smoke pellets that will let you test it empty the sec put a smoke bome in the lid of a tin and light it you will soon see if the air is moving but be carefull the last time i did it i ended up with the fire brigade at the door best to let the local station know what your up to incase a good neighbour thinks hes helping you. then do your alteration,s and light another keep going untill you get it right thats the only way to know for sure if the ventilation is working

[mark proctor]

thanks for that frank m8,,,will be on the case tommorrow.... ;) ;)

[Guest frank dooman]

plumb/centre pts or other plumbing supplier and ask for a discount you will get it tell him what you want to do and what your roof construction is flat/felt or tiles all the best

[holmsidelofts]

 

cheers for that frank m8...i just dont think the air flow is right in my loft..i have a blakes loft..if youve seen one m8...a gap at the front top...a gap at the back top...and a air vent ( loover on each door)...some one told me the air flows not right...i dont no frank....had some trouble with the darky young birds this year.... :( :( :(respo,,,was thinking on getting some chimnys on the roof m8...

 

Ive changed my ventilation last month and i have gone for the ronnie williamson style 2 tier roof and im extremely pleased with the way its turned out, Im really looking forward to racing out of it next season.

 

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Ive changed my ventilation last month and i have gone for the ronnie williamson style 2 tier roof and im extremely pleased with the way its turned out, Im really looking forward to racing out of it next season.

 

 

 

how does that work ive never seen it before?

[mark proctor]

any pictures please of vents  chimnys on roofs....

[holmsidelofts]

 

how does that work ive never seen it before?

 

This was posted a while back on pigeon chat.

See below:

Essentially this system of Paul Gregg 3 roofs.

Your first roof is a tin corrugated roof.

First you have your main loft roof, you start by cutting the top of the tin ridge

to make a 1 inch slot. It is 18 inches long, and on every ridge.

This is done at the back of the loft.

Then at the back of the loft you put a 2 inch wood beam, and in front of the other 18 inch slot, put

a 3 inch beam to create a slant. Put a tin roof over this with obvious overhang.

Inside the loft you put a ceiling, with plastic vents in it.

 

Please ask Questions I bugged Paul like hell, as its complex if you don't get it.

It can seem complex, but its dead simple, and the best flat roof conversion I have ever seen.

Thanks to Paul Gregg, for been so open, helpfull and kind in helping me, it was time consuming , Thank you Paul again.

Hi Paul, do you have any open fronts or Vents:

 

A. I dont need any air opening in my lofts as i have fresh

filtered air coming into my loft 24/7. If your loft is of the ground you

could do what Ron does, on the floor of the loft 2 inches from the front

wall Ron drilled a 2 inch diamater hole evey 18 inches to let the air enter

from under the loft and exit at the top creating a chimney effect, i had the

same in my loft untill i got the ventalation put in.

 

Q: Paul I worry, rain will pour in the open slots on the main Roof:

 

B. The loft slants 6 inches from front to back, the rain

will never enter the 8x1inches slots for they where cut out on the top ridge

of the tin so any rain running down the roof runs on the bottom ridge and

bypasses it.

Do you space the slots or are they in every ridge of the roof.

 

C. The 8x1inch by slot runns the entire lenght of roof

on the top ridges of the tin.

Does the pipe suck air out?

 

D. The ceiling runs fron to back. The pipe you see in

the y/bird loft is also in the o/bird loft and it brings fresh filtered air

into the loft 24/7. I dont need a fan attached to my lofts as the double

roof acts like a chimney drawing the stail air out 24/7.

 

The system was devised by Ron and it really does work a treat. Anyone who

has ever been in Rons loft have all said they have never seen a better

system, you just cant smell pigeons.

 

 

 

 

This shows the cut outs in the roof.

 

 

 

hope this helps.

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

yes i can see how that would work very well you have actualy just made your own roof vents getting ventilation is all about getting the draw right the best example is a chimney the vent doesnt go straight up it has to form a open S shape to give it the draw if it didnt have that shape there is no guarentee which way the air would flow thanks for that iam thinking of putting tin on my y/bird loft this year will bear that in mind if i can find some cheap tin to cover  the loft

[jimmy white]

some great info here, very interesting as the ventilation is very important, i remember experimenting on this in many  different ways ,, one was a simple 8 by 6 apex loft,, 2 louvres on the bottom front, 2 on the bottom back , i cut the apex 4 inches either side,full length of the loft,, then put a false apex about 4 inches higher, over lapping slightly  the 4 inches either side  [meshed the 4 inch gap ]  on putting a smoke bomb, found the smoke disappearing in no time, out through the long gap in the roof, [i still work in inches  ;D ;D ;D],, but it did work, and the few birds in it did very well,,,,,, maybe thats another point,, the more birds  need the more ventilation

[Guest frank dooman]

some great info here, very interesting as the ventilation is very important, i remember experimenting on this in many  different ways ,, one was a simple 8 by 6 apex loft,, 2 louvres on the bottom front, 2 on the bottom back , i cut the apex 4 inches either side,full length of the loft,, then put a false apex about 4 inches higher, over lapping slightly  the 4 inches either side  [meshed the 4 inch gap ]  on putting a smoke bomb, found the smoke disappearing in no time, out through the long gap in the roof, [i still work in inches  ;D ;D ;D],, but it did work, and the few birds in it did very well,,,,,, maybe thats another point,, the more birds  need the more ventilation

 

exactly jimmy ventilation is much more complex that most fanciers  know and every loft is different even if they look the exactly the same some are very lucky and hit just right without trying but most dont and just think its right because this and that vent is where every one says it should go only 1 way to get it right thats to smoke bome it untill it works

[jimmy white]

 

exactly jimmy ventilation is much more complex that most fanciers  know and every loft is different even if they look the exactly the same some are very lucky and hit just right without trying but most dont and just think its right because this and that vent is where every one says it should go only 1 way to get it right thats to smoke bome it untill it works

 

i think thats spot on frank,, always worth experimenting on , but as you say, a little more complex than most think, the same lofts,say,  in a different spot,  may need different ventilation   i,e some are in closed in areas others in the open areas etc,, etc , well worth experimenting to get it right,,

[Guest frank dooman]

 

i think thats spot on frank,, always worth experimenting on , but as you say, a little more complex than most think, the same lofts,say,  in a different spot,  may need different ventilation   i,e some are in closed in areas others in the open areas etc,, etc , well worth experimenting to get it right,,

 

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