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im wondering if anyone breeds indian fans, i would actually like a couple of hens, in black of anything other that white. maybe something like these

 

If anyone has any to sell in my part of the world would you pm me please

 

thanks

 

:)

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i have been kindly corrected by speight, it isnt indian fan tails that i want, its just ordinary ones ::)

 

 

so there you go, im not always right  :-/

 

ill see my mate tonight to see if he got any old for sale.    Samantha      

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Samantha,

 

If you want birds like the black fantail in the photo, then you do want INDIAN FANTAILS!!!!!!!!.The second photo would appear to be a crossbred.If your fantails have muffs and a slight crest then they are indeed INDIANS.

 

Regards Andrew

Posted

Samantha, the second pigeon looks exactly like my garden fantails, except they are pure white. If they breed ( I'm begining to wonder if  I  have two hens::)) you can have some with pleasure. :)

Posted

yes guys to make it clear I know now what the birds are !!!!

 

does anyone have a couple of garden fantail hens in anything other than white they can let me buy??

 

thanks again for the correction

Posted

yes guys to make it clear I know now what the birds are !!!!

 

does anyone have a couple of garden fantail hens in anything other than white they can let me buy??

 

thanks again for the correction

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Samantha,

 

As far as I am aware you can only get garden fantails in white,unless anyone knows different.Can you put a photo of your fantails on please?

 

Andrew

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Sorry fifer but I was right about the colours available in Garden Fantails.I have contacted the NPA secretary and she has confirmed that the standard only permits them in white.

 

Andrew

Posted

samantha,

i could ask someone local to me, if your interested in having one or two in your loft,? he might be able to drop them up to you too, as he drives a delivery van??? :P;)

 

Posted
Sorry fifer but I was right about the colours available in Garden Fantails.I have contacted the NPA secretary and she has confirmed that the standard only permits them in white.

 

Andrew

 

so are you saying the colours are only achieved by cross breeding ??

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Samantha,

 

There are three breeds of fantail commonly seen,INDIAN,EXHIBITION and GARDEN.Until recently there wasn't a standard for garden fantails i.e. they were not a recognised breed.A standard has now been written for them but only in white.

The coloured fantails are EXHIBITION which are available in a variety of colours and markings.What you have seen are probably poor quality/crossbred exhibitions.If you have white Garden Fantails there is no point crossing them with these coloured fantails as you will not be able to show them.

If you really want coloured fantails it might be best starting again with some quality birds.For ease of management I would sugest you get Indians until you get more experience with pigeons.

Perhaps glassfeather could post some pictures of the different fantails so you can see whats available

 

Andrew

Posted

beautyhomer,

 

If i pair brown fantail cock x black pied hen, what youngster colour will be ?

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Thankyou Graeme,

 

Knew you would know where to find some good pictures.

 

Speight,

 

Any chance of a photo of the brown,would like to make sure it is a brown and not an ash red before listing the breeding possibilities.

 

Andrew

Guest beautyhomer
Posted

Without knowing the parents of these two birds it is not possible to give a very accurate prediction.You do not say what pattern the brown cock is i.e barless,barred or cheq.As the hen carries spread she will pass this on to both young cocks and hens.If she has 2 spread genes all her young will be spread,if only 1 then 50% of her young will be spread.

As colour is sex linked,all the young hens will be brown and all the cocks will be of the blue series

Therefore if the hen as only one spread gene we can safely predict the following

 

HENS

Brown

Brown Spread

Brown Pied

Brown Spread Pied

 

COCKS

Blue

Black

Blue Pied

Black Pied

 

If you get any brown cocks then the original cock is an Ash Red and not a brown at all.This is because Ash Red is the most dominant,then blue and finally brown.

 

 

Posted

They are beautiful Samantha. How do you know they are cocks? I'm still not sure what my two are?

 

Are there any racing pigeons with these neat faces?  My Logans have typical racing pigeon beaks with quite large ceres. :-/

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Guest Big Blue
Posted

GOT TWO YOUNG BIRDS IN NEST THEY R OFF A BLK PIED & WHITE BOTH FANTAILS IF U WANT THEM LET ME KNOW

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