Novices Medication Cabinet

[Guest Paulo]

What medical supplies do you advise novices to have on hand during the racing season?

[Mike Lycett]

A cracking pair of eyes to watch everything going on & an instinct that you gotta learn to follow.  As pigeon men we have nothing else

[Guest Paulo]

Thats the number one thing but what sort of things do you have on standby in case of problems.

 

Obviousy preventation is better than cure but its still wise to have some treatments to hand i.e. the obvious ones are:-

 

Canker

Cocci

Worms

 

etc do you guys get stuff on hand in case a bird gets smashed up like an injury hammock etc

 

Just after ideas to help all the novices on here.

[Mike Lycett]

No, we have no splints, hammocks or anything like that..  

 

Canker, Cocci & Worms, good husbandry & you're more than half way home

[Guest]

Nurture your peigeons natural immune system from birth and you won't need the snake oil stuff

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THINK MY SON HAS BIGGEST MEDICINE CABINET OUT THERE     ITS TALL  BLACK IN COLOUR  OH  AND IT HAS WHEELS :X

[snowy]

A cracking pair of eyes to watch everything going on & an instinct that you gotta learn to follow.  As pigeon men we have nothing else

 

like mike said, observation is the best & keep everything 100% clean & DRY, & i have found that garlic water once a week keeps most nasties away.

so always keep a fresh garlic bulb available.

regards

[jazzman]

good info  

[Guest]

I know this is an old thread, but it does take me back to the time I started up again.

 

Most of my early problems were injuries, and my complaint at that time was how little there was on sale in the pigeon press that could be used to help a bird that had been 'hawked' , or hit something and broken a leg for example. How do you patch them up, or set a broken leg etc?

 

If you know the basic rules, you can improvise: any wound must be cleaned then sealed with something - to stop infection getting a chance to take hold.  So you are basically talking about soap and lukewarm water, an antiseptic, a healing cream, [members here use Savlon cream and they do an antiseptic spray too.] Then simply let the bird rest and let nature take its course. Any vet will tell you that compared to mammals, birds heal very quickly.

 

Setting the birds leg is a bit controversial - in that there are different schools of thought - splint, don't splint, your choice.   Its a matter of first making sure the broken ends are properly aligned, then either leaving it to heal, or putting a splint on, something like matchsticks minus the fiery bit and tape of some sort. Don't bind too tightly tho, because the break swells to twice the size of the leg during healing. Again its down to pure rest and nature, the bird will hold the foot off the floor and after about 7 days will again start to put weight on it, another 7 days limping and maybe 10-14 days after that walking quite the thing.

 

Know your limits - a broken wing is a vet job - bird will be confined to a box for 3 weeks- but depending on what's broken it will probably fly again, tho whether it will race again is another story.

 

And always keep a spare nestbox for sick or injured birds. Its the 1st rule - you keep these apart from the others, and tend to sick birds last after you have seen to your other birds - and a spare box is the best place to do it.

 

And if you have a sick bird in the loft, clean & spray everything you use to look after the birds with a disinfectant like Virkon. And wash your hands after you've tended the bird and before you do anything else.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

GARLIC, CIDER VINEGAR ARE TWO OF THE BEST THINGS AND CAN'T BE CLASSED AS A MEDICINE AS SUCH, BUT WOULD ADVOCATE TO ANYBODY STARTING UP TO HAVE THESE ON HAND, AS THEY ARE BETTER THAN A HOST OF MEDICINES THAT WILL ONLY DO THE SAME JOB BUT EMPTY YOUR POCKET FASTER

[Guest Paulo]

I know this is an old thread, but it does take me back to the time I started up again.

 

Most of my early problems were injuries, and my complaint at that time was how little there was on sale in the pigeon press that could be used to help a bird that had been 'hawked' , or hit something and broken a leg for example. How do you patch them up, or set a broken leg etc?

 

If you know the basic rules, you can improvise: any wound must be cleaned then sealed with something - to stop infection getting a chance to take hold.  So you are basically talking about soap and lukewarm water, an antiseptic, a healing cream, [members here use Savlon cream and they do an antiseptic spray too.] Then simply let the bird rest and let nature take its course. Any vet will tell you that compared to mammals, birds heal very quickly.

 

Setting the birds leg is a bit controversial - in that there are different schools of thought - splint, don't splint, your choice.   Its a matter of first making sure the broken ends are properly aligned, then either leaving it to heal, or putting a splint on, something like matchsticks minus the fiery bit and tape of some sort. Don't bind too tightly tho, because the break swells to twice the size of the leg during healing. Again its down to pure rest and nature, the bird will hold the foot off the floor and after about 7 days will again start to put weight on it, another 7 days limping and maybe 10-14 days after that walking quite the thing.

 

Know your limits - a broken wing is a vet job - bird will be confined to a box for 3 weeks- but depending on what's broken it will probably fly again, tho whether it will race again is another story.

 

And always keep a spare nestbox for sick or injured birds. Its the 1st rule - you keep these apart from the others, and tend to sick birds last after you have seen to your other birds - and a spare box is the best place to do it.

 

And if you have a sick bird in the loft, clean & spray everything you use to look after the birds with a disinfectant like Virkon. And wash your hands after you've tended the bird and before you do anything else.

 

I've found that you can get this purple antisepic spray for horses and white wound powder that heals pigeons that have hit the wires or being hawked up atreat

[pault]

 

     Just been through our "medicine cupboard" as we don't need this gear any more. Only holding on to our supply of Gemthepax, Strike & Matrix as we'll be using these regularly until the birds go.

 

Some of this gear has never been used - it was purchased "in case we ever needed it".

 

Make me an offer for the lot. Best offer by 9pm on Saturday. By PM only please. Would obviously prefer collection :-

 

1 x Full Bottle Verhellen Natural Eye Protector

1 x Unused Box Koudjis - The Best Smoke Bomb stuff going

3 x bottles E & E (Ticks mite etc)

1 x Full Bottle Hydrogen Peroxide never used - past its date now

1 x Unused Tub Comed Cometose

1 x 30 ml unused bottle NYSTATIN (09/06)

200mg Metronidazole tablets - already broken into quarters. Dunno how many.

Approx 30 Gamba Tabs (Probably past their date)

1 x part used tub Ronidazole 10% (canker)

1 x Hardly used bottle SEDOCHOL

20 sachets ADENOSAN

1 x Part Used NYSTAN (02 date on it)

1 and a half sachets GAMBAZIN (Respiratory)

1 x Unused bottle ZELL OXYGEN

Approx 100 MAGIX tablets

1 x 500grm tub DYNAMIK

Approx 16 Rohnfried TOPWELL tablets

1 x Tub ORNITHOSE III

1 x 50grm tub EMTRYL

1 x Part used tub MEDIZOLE

1 x Nearly Full COXI PLUS

1 x Neraly Full 100grm DOXYCYCLINE

1 x Full TYLOBIOTIC

1 x Bottle MOXIDECTIN

1 x Full PROCOL12

1 x Full 125ml bottle BAYCOX

1 x Part Used bottle MEDITRICH

30 GAMBAMIX-TRIO tablets (Expired 03!!!)

Approx 20 DOXYBIRD tablets

1 x Part used NAZALINE

1 and a half tubs ENTRO-BIOTIC

1 x Part Used AMINOVIT

 

 

Any queries please PM me - best offer by 9pm Saturday secures

 

Will post if required but will need to see how much that costs

 

Would cost you HUNDREDS to acquire all this - and its largely TOP stuff

 

We don't tolerate any crap

 

Mike

_________________

If in doubt - go with your instinct !

 

www.mrslycettandson.com

 

found this on other site

 

we all need to have products to help the bird at some time so mike lets not lead this lad up the wrong path all the top men may all have medical stock like this it not just good pigeon that win races

so paulo go with your instinct and get to the vet m8

cheers

paul

[Guest]

if u dont treat these days id say ur looking at trouble,times when fanciers would leave the bugs/viruses to take their course are now outdated and i personally believe irresponsible.

i used to have a chuckle at some fanciers who would say dont treat ur birds let the illness take its course...then they would be the 1st ones who would rush off to the docs when they had a runny nose lol.

[pault]

if u dont treat these days id say ur looking at trouble,times when fanciers would leave the bugs/viruses to take their course are now outdated and i personally believe irresponsible.

i used to have a chuckle at some fanciers who would say dont treat ur birds let the illness take its course...then they would be the 1st ones who would rush off to the docs when they had a runny nose lol.

 

thats my point misinfomation to pigeon men

 

[Guest]

 

I've found that you can get this purple antisepic spray for horses and white wound powder that heals pigeons that have hit the wires or being hawked up atreat

 

Was horse products that I used, couldn't get anything else, an antiseptic liquid which I diluted or used neat, depending on injury, and a thick paste [which stank] to seal the wound. Had to be careful with the paste cos it stained / destroyed feathers around the wound.

[EAGLEOWL]

     Just been through our "medicine cupboard" as we don't need this gear any more. Only holding on to our supply of Gemthepax, Strike & Matrix as we'll be using these regularly until the birds go.

 

Some of this gear has never been used - it was purchased "in case we ever needed it".

 

Make me an offer for the lot. Best offer by 9pm on Saturday. By PM only please. Would obviously prefer collection :-

 

1 x Full Bottle Verhellen Natural Eye Protector

1 x Unused Box Koudjis - The Best Smoke Bomb stuff going

3 x bottles E & E (Ticks mite etc)

1 x Full Bottle Hydrogen Peroxide never used - past its date now

1 x Unused Tub Comed Cometose

1 x 30 ml unused bottle NYSTATIN (09/06)

200mg Metronidazole tablets - already broken into quarters. Dunno how many.

Approx 30 Gamba Tabs (Probably past their date)

1 x part used tub Ronidazole 10% (canker)

1 x Hardly used bottle SEDOCHOL

20 sachets ADENOSAN

1 x Part Used NYSTAN (02 date on it)

1 and a half sachets GAMBAZIN (Respiratory)

1 x Unused bottle ZELL OXYGEN

Approx 100 MAGIX tablets

1 x 500grm tub DYNAMIK

Approx 16 Rohnfried TOPWELL tablets

1 x Tub ORNITHOSE III

1 x 50grm tub EMTRYL

1 x Part used tub MEDIZOLE

1 x Nearly Full COXI PLUS

1 x Neraly Full 100grm DOXYCYCLINE

1 x Full TYLOBIOTIC

1 x Bottle MOXIDECTIN

1 x Full PROCOL12

1 x Full 125ml bottle BAYCOX

1 x Part Used bottle MEDITRICH

30 GAMBAMIX-TRIO tablets (Expired 03!!!)

Approx 20 DOXYBIRD tablets

1 x Part used NAZALINE

1 and a half tubs ENTRO-BIOTIC

1 x Part Used AMINOVIT

 

 

Any queries please PM me - best offer by 9pm Saturday secures

 

Will post if required but will need to see how much that costs

 

Would cost you HUNDREDS to acquire all this - and its largely TOP stuff

 

We don't tolerate any crap

 

Mike

_________________

If in doubt - go with your instinct !

 

www.mrslycettandson.com

 

found this on other site

 

we all need to have products to help the bird at some time so mike lets not lead this lad up the wrong path all the top men may all have medical stock like this it not just good pigeon that win races

so paulo go with your instinct and get to the vet m8

cheers

paul

 

 

that beats my canker and worm tablets ,i couldnt tell you the last time i treat me birds for cocci.   :o

 

[pault]

EAGLE OWL

THIS IS NOT MY CUPBOARD

THIS IS MIKE LYCETTS

HE WAS SELLING THEM OF ON PIGEON CHAT

CHEERS

PAUL

[Guest Paulo]

 

Was horse products that I used, couldn't get anything else, an antiseptic liquid which I diluted or used neat, depending on injury, and a thick paste [which stank] to seal the wound. Had to be careful with the paste cos it stained / destroyed feathers around the wound.

 

Good stuff I found the wound powder is spot on

[EAGLEOWL]

A cracking pair of eyes to watch everything going on & an instinct that you gotta learn to follow.  As pigeon men we have nothing else

 

 

totally agree .

 

[Guest]

if u dont treat these days id say ur looking at trouble,times when fanciers would leave the bugs/viruses to take their course are now outdated and i personally believe irresponsible.

i used to have a chuckle at some fanciers who would say dont treat ur birds let the illness take its course...then they would be the 1st ones who would rush off to the docs when they had a runny nose lol.

 

Spot on,you have to treat these days and anyone who says they don't do it is either lying or you shouldn't touch their birds with a barge pole!!

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Spot on,you have to treat these days and anyone who says they don't do it is either lying or you shouldn't touch their birds with a barge pole!!

 

That is quite a conroversial statement, there are a lot of members on here that swear blind they do not treat for anything, so are they all telling lies  ?surely not.

[Guest shadow]

 

Spot on,you have to treat these days and anyone who says they don't do it is either lying or you shouldn't touch their birds with a barge pole!!

 

never had a medicine cupboard and only ever used medication when required

 

 

[pault]

 

That is quite a conroversial statement, there are a lot of members on here that swear blind they do not treat for anything, so are they all telling lies  ?surely not.

 

THE LONGER YOUR IN THIS GAME THE LESS YOU BELIEVE

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

THE LONGER YOUR IN THIS GAME THE LESS YOU BELIEVE

 

 

aye because the longer you are in it the more nonsense you hear

[Guest shadow]

very true