darkknight Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 what is the best way to race widowhood or natural
schouwman71 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 id say widowhood,its easier and cleaner in the loft,a new starter with old birds will have enouth to watch and do without making things harder,put them on widowhood and advance from there and learn to do it your way. Les
Guest gladdo Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 well im new to game and im going for widowhood as only way to be constantly there or there abouts if pigeons in top form , condition and managed right ( main one ) my pigeons will never be the blame as the manager runs the show and thats me in my loft !!!!! good luck mate
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 I believe it all depends on what sort of racing you are interested in,be it sprint to middle or long distance.For me its distance and natural is the only way to achieve this,keeping birds naturally for me as a new start with only three seasons under my belt theres no fancy systems and just lets me get on with learning.But thats just my opinion.
darkknight Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Posted January 2, 2008 well you see there is the problem im interested in them all sprint / middle and long distance.
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 You will need a quite a big set up for it all.personally its 500 miles and up for me and for that its natural,but one again just my opinion.
darkknight Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Posted January 2, 2008 well i have to pick one lol i cant do them all but i dont know what one
schouwman71 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 yes you can,fly them on dual widowhood,race the cocks and hens and only race the hens once a fortnight and get them geared up for the distance slowly getting them fitter with the jumping of races you will be doing,good widowhood hens will beat natural hens at the distanceive seen this in a lot of top lofts.Hope this helps.
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 Maybee but is that not quite complicated, especially for a novice.
schouwman71 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 No,all he has to do is set his managment out,start them on widowhood ,seperate his hens and exercise his birds once a day 1 hour each.when training reliese them together and let them all trap at the sametime,then send cocks every week to the races,the hens once a fortnight.Once started the rest will follow in practice,it works
Guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Posted January 2, 2008 personally being a complete novice as i was i would find that a bit complicated.there is so much involved in just keeping the birds healthy and learning about them ,that i believe if you want to go down that road thats fine but did not interest me, as looking after them in general and learning was more important,and i believe that personally has served me well.
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 I have flew my birds on natural since I started racing pigeons 3 years ago and I have had good fed positions and won the majority of my club races check out my mini site in pigeon basics and see for yourself. Pumpherston and district. Good Luck
darkknight Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Posted January 3, 2008 well this is interesting natural is winning the pole so far by 3 votes what nest boxs do you use for natural
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 Mine are just made out of mdf they were just a rush job done by my mate which are 12"x12"x10" not the best but they work for me just now till I get new sets bought in
Guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 mine are just 3/4 ply about 16"by 16" by about 10" thats in the stock loft which is about 6ft by 6ft and a new addition,racing loft much te same.
blackjack Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 Hello start and learn flying the system that suits your job and lifestyle and how you like your birds .I race natural it suits both of the above i do not want to race every week and i woild keep the birds if i did not race. My interest is out and out distance but go and meet a few local fanciers and talk to them then make your own decision try your 1st season natural and go from thier.
mark Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 personally being a complete novice as i was i would find that a bit complicated.there is so much involved in just keeping the birds healthy and learning about them ,that i believe if you want to go down that road thats fine but did not interest me, as looking after them in general and learning was more important,and i believe that personally has served me well. keep it simple to start with and learn as you go along, and more importantly enjoy yourself.
darkknight Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Posted January 7, 2008 well its interesting on this site every one is saying natural on the other site its widowhood
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 I have raced natural last 2 years but this year I am going to try roundabout had great success with natural but just fancy a change
Guest Paulo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Natural birds can beat widowhood pigeons especially well moviated hens but it all depends on the management and the quality of the birds. I'm going to be doing natural as my first season with yb's and am short on cocks. You have to keep an eye on th epigeons through and pair them at different dates that way you'll always have something in form to send. Its easy to loose form with widowhood pigeons as well. I think what everyever you do will be difficult as a novice I'm lucky cause my dad is there to give me advice and keep any eye on the birds
darkknight Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Posted January 7, 2008 yeah i know im going to find it hard but i need to pick one so i build the right boxs pluss i cant have to many birds the loft will be 16 x 8
Guest Paulo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 yeah i know im going to find it hard but i need to pick one so i build the right boxs pluss i cant have to many birds the loft will be 16 x 8 If you can't have two many pigeons and are stuck for space than you are best with natural as problem with widowhood is good hens can be wasted. If I was you I'd get some pigeon books and dvds and have a good look into what you fancy flying before you go any further. Nestboxs for widowhood can be used for natural. You will need a seperate loft to keep your hens in as well with widowhood. Most experts recommend a wire floor and pole perchs to stop the hens flying together. Best book on widowhood I have read so far is east to west by Kevin Hurst For natural pigeon racing just get some dvds. Widowhood is what most working blokes tend to favour as it can save on time.
darkknight Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Posted January 7, 2008 thanks whats a good natural dvd
Guest Paulo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 Have a look online and search for boddy and ridewood they do a ton of dvds on both widowhood and natural. A good book I've read on natural racing is Pigeon racing by DV Belding Jim Jenner also does some good dvds called secrets of champions if you get secrets of champions 2 that has all the methods of racing old birds on.
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