jimmy white Posted May 28, 2008 Report Posted May 28, 2008 i agree entirely with you,merlin, the problem is that the eagle owl is only wild ,,,if born in the wild ,if its an escapee ,the rspb class this as" not wild" [it beats me how they can tell the difference????] but if born in the wild SHOULD come under the same protection ,of any other bird of prey [the wild bird and countryside act] the argument by the rspb is that the eagle owl is not native to britain and flies in from belge etc ???? ,[therefore doesnt come under this act] but most ornothologists disagree with this ,,,,,but the point is whether theve flown in, or escapees , if they breed and hatch youngsters in brittain , they should,and in fact do, come under this act and should be protected like any other bird of prey ,,,,,,,,,but its strange how umteen y,birds born here ,have dissapeared , the rspb dont want them here , so, as you say merlin , i wonder if we would ever here about a court case involving the rspb killing/harrasing/capturing one of these birds ,,,,,,,,,who knows?
Merlin Posted May 28, 2008 Report Posted May 28, 2008 The bottom line as regarding,telling difference is they cant,in most cases,it doesnt matter,they dont want any of them them,this fact alone should make people realize what a threat Eagle Owls are to their selected/protected B.O.P.,and it should make all fanciers want to encourage the re introduction of these Owls,any which way we can,and hopefully we are capable of doing same,and posting letters,e.t.c is like sitting in a rocking chair,its gives you something to do,but It will get you nowhere.
SakerSam Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 With regards to Eurasian Eagle Owls, they were once native in the Uk right up until Victorian times but then 'man being man' decided to go out and shoot everything he could back then. At the Booth Museum in Brighton, there are lots of shot and mounted eagle owls BUT the big problem the RSPB have with certain species is because of the damage they 'could cause'!!! The Little owl is classed as a native species but it originally was brought over from Holland a few hundred years ago; because of their tiny stature, they don't pose any major threat to livestock or pets etc, where as an eagle owl could very easily. If/when (i hope) they do ever re-establish themselves here again, and their basic staple diet went scarce, ie rabbits etc. they would then look for something else. They are more than capable of taking fox so if they populated areas near the towns and cities, it wouldn't be too long before the media was full of stories of 'killer owl carried my cat away' or 'big owl savages families dog whilst out walking!!!' Eagle owls will take anything it can over-power and will often take prey the easy way when they are sleeping or roosted up.
gangster Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 With regards to Eurasian Eagle Owls, they were once native in the Uk right up until Victorian times but then 'man being man' decided to go out and shoot everything he could back then. At the Booth Museum in Brighton, there are lots of shot and mounted eagle owls BUT the big problem the RSPB have with certain species is because of the damage they 'could cause'!!! The Little owl is classed as a native species but it originally was brought over from Holland a few hundred years ago; because of their tiny stature, they don't pose any major threat to livestock or pets etc, where as an eagle owl could very easily. If/when (i hope) they do ever re-establish themselves here again, and their basic staple diet went scarce, ie rabbits etc. they would then look for something else. They are more than capable of taking fox so if they populated areas near the towns and cities, it wouldn't be too long before the media was full of stories of 'killer owl carried my cat away' or 'big owl savages families dog whilst out walking!!!' Eagle owls will take anything it can over-power and will often take prey the easy way when they are sleeping or roosted up. i do realise you keep birds of prey but with out ant disrespect as neither side can come together and find a solution to the problem of raptors v racing pigeon(i do not include the birds kept by falconers as i like 2 think most are sensible in there workings of the breed ie dont us racing birds as quarry) is there apart from the eagle owl maybe another raptor capable of scaring the perigrine with out kiling it to keep our areas clear for training/flights even as a temp thing?????
ChrisMaidment08 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 cabbage root worm powder will keep them of youer birds
Guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 for got to mention merlin is the name of my 12 bore goose gun
DOVEScot Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 With regards to Eurasian Eagle Owls, they were once native in the Uk right up until Victorian times but then 'man being man' decided to go out and shoot everything he could back then. At the Booth Museum in Brighton, there are lots of shot and mounted eagle owls BUT the big problem the RSPB have with certain species is because of the damage they 'could cause'!!! The Little owl is classed as a native species but it originally was brought over from Holland a few hundred years ago; because of their tiny stature, they don't pose any major threat to livestock or pets etc, where as an eagle owl could very easily. If/when (i hope) they do ever re-establish themselves here again, and their basic staple diet went scarce, ie rabbits etc. they would then look for something else. They are more than capable of taking fox so if they populated areas near the towns and cities, it wouldn't be too long before the media was full of stories of 'killer owl carried my cat away' or 'big owl savages families dog whilst out walking!!!' Eagle owls will take anything it can over-power and will often take prey the easy way when they are sleeping or roosted up. Welcome to the site this is the first post of yours I have read Why should the public moan about their pet cat or dog being prey to an eagle owl when us as the public moan to the deaf it seems when our pets, namely pigeons, canaries, finches and mumerous others are prey to hawks and falcons. My mate keeps canaries in an aviary and has had the heads pulled off by sparrow hawks, yet he is punished by the bias laws that do not allow him to retaliate, We have doves in a cote that are love every bit as much as any cat or dog so why are we not allowed to protect them Just found your other posts http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/v-search/p-2/
jimmy white Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 With regards to Eurasian Eagle Owls, they were once native in the Uk right up until Victorian times but then 'man being man' decided to go out and shoot everything he could back then. At the Booth Museum in Brighton, there are lots of shot and mounted eagle owls BUT the big problem the RSPB have with certain species is because of the damage they 'could cause'!!! The Little owl is classed as a native species but it originally was brought over from Holland a few hundred years ago; because of their tiny stature, they don't pose any major threat to livestock or pets etc, where as an eagle owl could very easily. If/when (i hope) they do ever re-establish themselves here again, and their basic staple diet went scarce, ie rabbits etc. they would then look for something else. They are more than capable of taking fox so if they populated areas near the towns and cities, it wouldn't be too long before the media was full of stories of 'killer owl carried my cat away' or 'big owl savages families dog whilst out walking!!!' Eagle owls will take anything it can over-power and will often take prey the easy way when they are sleeping or roosted up. yes,,,the peregrine [or any other bird of prey],which tends to nest in the same habitat ,,,,,,,,,,and that's for its own protection IE, its youngsters,,,,,,,,, feeding is ,mainly rabbits ,which handy enough,also come out at night, and are plenty-full
Guest valiant Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 a sparowhawk will hunt the same place until the food runs out then it moves on , if it is in real need it will hunt day to day birds that it normaly wouldnt chance messing with , (ie) crows ducks pigeons phesants you get the gist , song birds are a sparrow hawks main food . a lot of rubbish
Guest chrisss Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 a lot of rubbish quote] why is it a lot of rubbish ?
jimmy white Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 Welcome to the site this is the first post of yours I have read Why should the public moan about their pet cat or dog being prey to an eagle owl when us as the public moan to the deaf it seems when our pets, namely pigeons, canaries, finches and mumerous others are prey to hawks and falcons. My mate keeps canaries in an aviary and has had the heads pulled off by sparrow hawks, yet he is punished by the bias laws that do not allow him to retaliate, We have doves in a cote that are love every bit as much as any cat or dog so why are we not allowed to protect them Just found your other posts http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/v-search/p-2/ yes, i must agree with dovescote here,,,but i think were getting carried away ,,with cats and dogs , the eagle owl is just an ordinary large owl and just as frightened of humans as any other owl ,instead of feeding on small animals ,mice etc. it feeds on rabbit , it might go for a miniature or toy dog ,,,,,,,,if it was running wild among the cliffs ,near its nest :-/, but not an alsation
Guest valiant Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 why dont you watch a sparowhawk it take what ever it can get.
jimmy white Posted June 13, 2008 Report Posted June 13, 2008 why dont you watch a sparowhawk it take what ever it can get. i agree with this , the hen sparrow hawk is an opportunist, and will take when it suits
Guest valiant Posted June 14, 2008 Report Posted June 14, 2008 yes welll said jimmy so some should watch the hawk and see how it works it willll take anything it can.
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