your thoughts on this

[paul10121968]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-DAY-PIGEON-SHOOTING-in-the-WESTCOUNTRY-near-BRISTOL_W0QQitemZ190249555998QQc

 

your thoughts on this barbarism,not the culling that bothers me its the fact that ebay is allowing it to be advertised on their sight.i wonder how many racing pigeons are lost this way.

[alex wight]

The ones on show are all woodies, but how many racing pigeons have been killed but not shown???

[Guest strapper]

there must be hundreds(racers) a year lost through reckless shooting..a shot is a shot..wether a racer or woody!

[Guest Vic]

The ones on show are all woodies, but how many racing pigeons have been killed but not shown???

What argument or objection have we? All ring doves as the man says.

 

 

[stewarty dove]

it is a sport as well as a vital part of farming.  People that shoot know the diference between a woodie and a racer. the white bars and size give it away plus the woodies fly a bit different to racers.

 

Ammunition costs a lot so a shot is not a shot it is thought out and there is no trigger happy times as you would go bust quite fast

 

[paul10121968]

it is a sport as well as a vital part of farming.  People that shoot know the diference between a woodie and a racer. the white bars and size give it away plus the woodies fly a bit different to racers.

 

Ammunition costs a lot so a shot is not a shot it is thought out and there is no trigger happy times as you would go bust quite fast

 

i totally agree but in the excitement of the kill,i wonder how many domestic birds get hit.

[Guest peter.j]

as woodies fly in a different manner to domestics i should imagine not many ,pigeon shooters sit in a hide and try to attract the woodies on to rape and other crop fields using decoys etc ,so im not saying there arent any mistakes etc but i should say theyare few and far between......pete

also you say your not against the culling so why describe it as barbarism

[Guest spin cycle]

tricky one this...i shoot a bit but until i kept racers i wouldn't neccesarily have been able to differentiate by flight. also people do get 'red mist'. i've not seen racers go for rape where most field shooting goes on...more cereals( stubble / freshly sown) . i wouldn't say its a big problem unless you get someone determined to shoot anything....and i'm afraid you do get them. JMO

[paul10121968]

as woodies fly in a different manner to domestics i should imagine not many ,pigeon shooters sit in a hide and try to attract the woodies on to rape and other crop fields using decoys etc ,so im not saying there arent any mistakes etc but i should say theyare few and far between......pete

also you say your not against the culling so why describe it as barbarism

 

if you read the mans description he states that he has a lot of birds on his ground at the moment and he needs help to shoot them,but he then goes on to say that all kit is provided magnet,decoy etc.so i dont understand why the birds have to be lured to their deaths in the name of sport.but thats just my personal oppinion,its not intended to ruffle anyones feathers(excuse the pun).

[paul10121968]

:) :)

[DOVEScot]

Some people pay to shoot clay pigeons so why not waist amunition on live ones whether woody or racer, to some it is just a fun day out not interested in culling wood pigeons for the benefit of farmers they will shoot anything for target practice :-/

[Guest peter.j]

 

if you read the mans description he states that he has a lot of birds on his ground at the moment and he needs help to shoot them,but he then goes on to say that all kit is provided magnet,decoy etc.so i dont understand why the birds have to be lured to their deaths in the name of sport.but thats just my personal oppinion,its not intended to ruffle anyones feathers(excuse the pun).

 

they need to be lured because there bloody harder to hit when moving and you might mistake one for a domestic, lets be grown up about this  people can and do say pigeon racing is cruel sending birds hundreds of miles away from its mate chicks/eggs etc for a teaspoon of corn the top and bottom of it if you dont want to shoot the woodpigeon which is a pest dont place a bid

[stewarty dove]

over my ten plus years off shooting i have never came across a shooter that has down a racer i agree some rock doves and ferals but never a racer.

 

i do know that there is a lot of shooitng companies that bring over boys from italy and such places and i do know that they will shoot at most things that move in the air and on the ground which is a big no no.

 

hard topic as there will be a lot for the shooting and a lot not for it.  i have just started to race now and find it more fun in a way cheers

:) :)

[DOVEScot]

 

they need to be lured because there bloody harder to hit when moving and you might mistake one for a domestic, lets be grown up about this  people can and do say pigeon racing is cruel sending birds hundreds of miles away from its mate chicks/eggs etc for a teaspoon of corn the top and bottom of it if you dont want to shoot the woodpigeon which is a pest dont place a bid

 

I agree but surely we can have thoughts and opinions as well :-/

[stewarty dove]

yes i agree , we all should be able to air our thoughts.

[Guest spin cycle]

 

they need to be lured because there bloody harder to hit when moving and you might mistake one for a domestic, lets be grown up about this  people can and do say pigeon racing is cruel sending birds hundreds of miles away from its mate chicks/eggs etc for a teaspoon of corn the top and bottom of it if you dont want to shoot the woodpigeon which is a pest dont place a bid

 

well their still moving when decoyed just closer. i don't think racers take notice of decoys...allthough you can get odd stray/ feral in a foraging group of woodies. the point about cruelty is well made...particularly after the weekend(dizzy)

[pjc]

I was brought up shooting and if you can't tell the difference between woodie and racer you shouldn't be shooting!

Its a shame more ferels arn't shot as its them that give ours a bad name!

Paul10121968, theres a lot near you that want shooting i understand some ex fancier just dumped his birds out on the street and got rid of the lofts! It would certainly do the council a favour to shoot em and get them gone!

[ChrisMaidment08]

now i can comment on this phil we removed over100 birds in pauls naigbours gardens for councle peaple are cick of mess and them on window ledges

[Guest spin cycle]

I was brought up shooting and if you can't tell the difference between woodie and racer you shouldn't be shooting!

Its a shame more ferels arn't shot as its them that give ours a bad name!

Paul10121968, theres a lot near you that want shooting i understand some ex fancier just dumped his birds out on the street and got rid of the lofts! It would certainly do the council a favour to shoot em and get them gone!

 

as usual you are right. but perhaps paul is asking whether an internet ad. is likely to attract a 'shooter' who perhaps shouldn't be shooting.

[Guest chrisss]

I was brought up shooting and if you can't tell the difference between woodie and racer you shouldn't be shooting!

Its a shame more ferels arn't shot as its them that give ours a bad name!

Paul10121968, theres a lot near you that want shooting i understand some ex fancier just dumped his birds out on the street and got rid of the lofts! It would certainly do the council a favour to shoot em and get them gone!

 

maybe of topic a bit, but how about shooting the so called ex fancier for dumping his birds?

[pjc]

Spin Cycle, these days its such a performance to get a shotgun licence which would be required for this shoot along with maybe a game licence that the majority taking up the oportunity will know what they are doing.

 

Phil

 

Chris, the fancier should have been shot!

Do you know him Paul?

[paul10121968]

I was brought up shooting and if you can't tell the difference between woodie and racer you shouldn't be shooting!

Its a shame more ferels arn't shot as its them that give ours a bad name!

Paul10121968, theres a lot near you that want shooting i understand some ex fancier just dumped his birds out on the street and got rid of the lofts! It would certainly do the council a favour to shoot em and get them gone!

 

i see your point,there are plusses and minuses in everything.its just upsetting that it has to happen.

[ChrisMaidment08]

ex fancier still lives there but denys they are his all peaple round there say they are

[DOVEScot]

 

maybe of topic a bit, but how about shooting the so called ex fancier for dumping his birds?

 

I think fanciers are on the protected species list, bottom some may say as you get less for shooting a fancier than you do for a hawk ;D ;D ;D

[pjc]

trouble is these days it is difficult to clear them with out the doogooders getting on there soap box.