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[Guest]

and also if stray returns they could simply ring with fanciers rings or transfer before there rung on the birds leg , there are too many flaws in your idear / ideal

YOUNG BIRDS STRAIT OUT OF THE NEST DONT FLY .AND HOW MANY BIRDS DO YOU KNOW THAT FLY BACK TO THESE STUDS ,

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

no need to shout les if young birds couldnt fly they couldnt get lost in the first place , i never had any feed back re strays back to studs , but most studs birds cant see out to know where home is so i would probably say none

[bewted]

IT WOULD BE RUN ONLY FOR RETREVAL OF LOST BIRDS THAT IS THE SUGESTION [NOT A COURIOR SERVICE ]AGREE IF THE STUD WAS A MEMBER AND ALL THEIR BIRDS GOT OUT AND WENT MISSING THEN THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE SAME SERVICE IF THEIR BIRDS WAS REPORTED ,please think logical about this instead of trying to pick holes in it [THIS WILL NEVER GET OF THE GROUND I REALISE THIS ,BECAUSE IT IS TO DO WITH PIGEONS ,BUT IT COULD IF EVERY RPRA MEMBER PUT THEIR BRAIN IN GEAR INSTED OF SITING ON IT .]

 

les..i tried a stray service on here,especially for injured birds or non fanciers ringing up,,,,what happened,,,,i only get 12 people to help on that out of the whole of pigeonbasics and one of them was me !!!

[Guest]

theres a cheaper way wont cost a penny every transporter to have a stray basket  , job be a good un

YES THEN WE CAN ALL CATCH THE SAME DISEASE AND NACKER OUR RACING UP .just in case you havent noticed PARAMIXO is doing the rounds again .AND IF YOU ARE ONLY PICKING HOLES IN THIS TO SAVE YOURSELF MONEY [iF IT EVER TAKES OF I WILL PAY YOUR FEE BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL WORK OUT CHEAPER FOR ME ]

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

paramixo is doing the rounds i quite agree , but all pigeons on a transporter are vacinated all race birds are vacinated , so if it had a ets ring or vacination stamp or rubber on its leg then it would be deemed fit to travel , and who would put a sick bird on a transporter in the first place ? as for injured pigeons they would have to be returned via a courier as would a bird that doesnt know where home is that hasent homed to it , as for saving myself money if i thought for one minute your suggestion would be indeed be viable then i would support it 100% , i already return and collect strays from my area as i did the other day for Johnny of another site , last Sunday a basket of N.E.H.U were returned , on my visit to Billy Wilson off this site i took a Goole bird back with me then sent it to Hull and returned to the fancier the fancier rung Billy up and thank him and myself for my efforts. I have sent a number of strays back home , one i got back week after i sent it back rubbered but ill send it back again . We can all help in a small way , and i am helping and will continue to do so . p.s Sunderland is 86 miles north of me and i charge nothing

[Guest]

paramixo is doing the rounds i quite agree , but all pigeons on a transporter are vacinated all race birds are vacinated , so if it had a ets ring or vacination stamp or rubber on its leg then it would be deemed fit to travel , and who would put a sick bird on a transporter in the first place ? as for injured pigeons they would have to be returned via a courier as would a bird that doesnt know where home is that hasent homed to it , as for saving myself money if i thought for one minute your suggestion would be indeed be viable then i would support it 100% , i already return and collect strays from my area as i did the other day for Johnny of another site , last Sunday a basket of N.E.H.U were returned , on my visit to Billy Wilson off this site i took a Goole bird back with me then sent it to Hull and returned to the fancier the fancier rung Billy up and thank him and myself for my efforts. I have sent a number of strays back home , one i got back week after i sent it back rubbered but ill send it back again . We can all help in a small way , and i am helping and will continue to do so . p.s Sunderland is 86 miles north of me and i charge nothing

keep up the good work another season and you might have got back to their owners the same amount of birds i have ,and if you belive the firts part of your stait ment ,all i can say to that is you must also beleave in fairys as well ,no disrespect ment and i dont want to let this end up like most threads on here ,arguing who has the biggest one ,so i bid you good night ATB les.

 

 

[Yorkshire Animal Ambulance]

http://www.yorkshireaa.co.uk/index.htm          

but no prices ?

 

Hi chaps!

AS an already licensed animal transporter, we are in the process of setting up the pigeon courier service and will offer a high level of service. Details wil be on the website at the weekend along with a basic guide of prices. The franchises are for the animal ambulance and not the pigeon service. We will be looking to employ drivers (who will receive training and work to a high standard!!) in every county in england scotland and wales.

 

If you are interested then please email me at Suzanne@yorkshireaa.co.uk

 

We are setting this service up under the guidance of members and racing association (therefore please email me your questions, requests and info you feel will be helpful) to make sure that this service is a qaulity service and that the health and welfare of the birds are of paramount importance!! As for the prices we are hoping, although not confirmed, to remain at a similar pricing structure to that of amtrak and other services.

Thanks

 

 

[ch pied]

where were all these outfit's last week and the week before , anyone use them before or did they just spring up overnight , why were they not lifting pigeons before amtrak went t*t's up , with the exception of AM & PHANTOM FLYER ,

they weren't placing add's in the fancy press , or on pigeon forum's , , just picking over the bone's of amtrak , i think LES  is wright set up our own service

 

[OLDYELLOW]

keep up the good work another season and you might have got back to their owners the same amount of birds i have ,and if you belive the firts part of your stait ment ,all i can say to that is you must also beleave in fairys as well ,no disrespect ment and i dont want to let this end up like most threads on here ,arguing who has the biggest one ,so i bid you good night ATB les.

 

 

As for how long i have done this is the last 4 years so hundreds of pigeons N.E.H.U and S.U have been taken nearer home as for believing in fairys if you think for one fee for all season would work and not be abused by the few to spoil it for the many then it is you that needs to look at your idealist fairytale beliefs, as for aguing i have never shouted to get my point across , and to point out that your idear is badly thought out and unmanageable , most fanciers will travel to get there birds back , i have in the past and im sure i will in the future , i have lost a total of 7 birds 2 training and 5 racing all young bird season , had any of these been reported i would of aranged there return at my cost , if you cant afford to loose them or have them reported in the first place they should of never been sent .

[PigeonTracker]

Just thought I'd jump in and let you know that my company PigeonTracker recover birds from all around Wales.  We've set up our new website but its undergoing re-design.  Don't want to make this sound like an advert but if anyone is stuck then we're here to help.  Contact number is on pigeontracker.com or throught the Welsh Pigeon Union.

 

Hope that helps people.  

[OLDYELLOW]

well done pigeon tracker if you can team up with others to form a network you will sucede i wish you well in your venture , read post for similar couriers to network with

[Guest]

 

As for how long i have done this is the last 4 years so hundreds of pigeons N.E.H.U and S.U have been taken nearer home as for believing in fairys if you think for one fee for all season would work and not be abused by the few to spoil it for the many then it is you that needs to look at your idealist fairytale beliefs, as for aguing i have never shouted to get my point across , and to point out that your idear is badly thought out and unmanageable , most fanciers will travel to get there birds back , i have in the past and im sure i will in the future , i have lost a total of 7 birds 2 training and 5 racing all young bird season , had any of these been reported i would of aranged there return at my cost , if you cant afford to loose them or have them reported in the first place they should of never been sent .

it has all been said before especialy by me  [so keep on saying it and you will be racing against your self ]i dont know how long you have hade birds but your eyes will be opend the longer you keep them .

 

 

[OLDYELLOW]

had birds since i was 4 years old grew up with them raced since 1990s, im not deluded im a realist your theory wont work try paying tesco £10 to deliever all your shopping for the year they would laugh and so am i what a ridiculous idea ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

YES THEN WE CAN ALL CATCH THE SAME DISEASE AND NACKER OUR RACING UP .just in case you havent noticed PARAMIXO is doing the rounds again .AND IF YOU ARE ONLY PICKING HOLES IN THIS TO SAVE YOURSELF MONEY [iF IT EVER TAKES OF I WILL PAY YOUR FEE BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL WORK OUT CHEAPER FOR ME ]

 

 

first of all, lets forget about paramyxo,, all racing pigeons should be vaccinated , and should not contract this ,

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i feel les [as much as he believes in himself , does not,in my veiw,    [according to his posts,]  possess  a proper bussiness attitude  for anything like this, qoute " if all rpra members put their brain into gear instead of sitting on it ",,,,do other members of other organisations come in to this, ??,there are many ,,including non racing pigeons   [allthough no doubts whatsoever in his integrity, feel he is diving into the unknown without thinking himself ,methodicly,realisticly and calmly ] old yellow [playing , devils advocate  ] does talk sense [in my opinion] my question is,,why the rpra ??? does anyone not think that could cause probs,,,as there are other unions not allways in agreement with the rpra,,  :-/ my feelings are ,,however much i dont like it,, but money talks ,and  i beleive at this very minute  [if there is money to be made]  there will be the real top guns ,soon running a courier service ,to include livestock,,,,,,,,,this takes a lot of money ,a lot of bussiness brain , there are people with both these assets,  that will do the job properly,and soon ,,or even sooner   

[Guest]

had birds since i was 4 years old grew up with them raced since 1990s, im not deluded im a realist your theory wont work try paying tesco £10 to deliever all your shopping for the year they would laugh and so am i what a ridiculous idea ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

of course it wont work to many defeatests about .i bet you even put up with the hawks and say o,well it is part of pigeon racing.ill breed a few more for them next year .

 

 

[Guest]

 

first of all, lets forget about paramyxo,, all racing pigeons should be vaccinated , and should not contract this ,

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i feel les [as much as he believes in himself , does not,in my veiw,    [according to his posts,]  possess  a proper bussiness attitude  for anything like this, qoute " if all rpra members put their brain into gear instead of sitting on it ",,,,do other members of other organisations come in to this, ??,there are many ,,including non racing pigeons   [allthough no doubts whatsoever in his integrity, feel he is diving into the unknown without thinking himself ,methodicly,realisticly and calmly ] old yellow [playing , devils advocate  ] does talk sense [in my opinion] my question is,,why the rpra ??? does anyone not think that could cause probs,,,as there are other unions not allways in agreement with the rpra,,  :-/ my feelings are ,,however much i dont like it,, but money talks ,and  i beleive at this very minute  [if there is money to be made]  there will be the real top guns ,soon running a courier service ,to include livestock,,,,,,,,,this takes a lot of money ,a lot of bussiness brain , there are people with both these assets,  that will do the job properly,and soon ,,or even sooner   

if another company said £30 one of payment and got it up and running it would not be long befor every tom dick and harry would want to join ,no i dont have a buissnes head but you should see the life i live ,and the problems i dont get,and it would take a lot of money£1200,000 sounds enough to me ,all of these other people coming on bord the gravy train WILL help kill the hobby ,they wont be able to have a price war with each other because of the cost of runnining things just wait and see ,yes i only said about RPRA members all the others have to do to get the same deal is become a RPRA member and pay the same as every body else, and dont forget about paramixo that is like bury your head in the sand it is here and here to stay because not all pigeon people inject there birds just look at how many on this site got it ,

 

 

[Guest chrisss]

this is all very nice with all of these different firms jumping in [where were you all before?]with all of these "firms" getting together to form a network who do i pay?,amtrak for all of their many many faults charged me �30.00 for up to 4 birds,that was from anywhere in the uk[alright they might have ended up in latvia dead]if i want a bird from say northern england to me and it has to go by a "network" how many people need paying for this,if two different guys are moving it?,i have seen lots of ads on this site [all of a sudden]for national firms who i never knew moved birds before,why did they not put an ad in before amtrak pulled the pin? as anyone got any feedback on these guys,and who are the big studs using now,they must have some one already

[Guest shadow]

there was a firm started up a few years back ( when interlink packed in with pigeons)  where you paid an annual fee to have your birds returned no matter how many times you used the service, but unfortunatley it folded through lack of support.  the amount of money made transporting pigeons is small compared with parcel delivery, Hope some of these new firms springing up can survive and get a NATIONAL service up and running

[PigeonTracker]

well done pigeon tracker if you can team up with others to form a network you will sucede i wish you well in your venture , read post for similar couriers to network with

Thanks, we've been in business a long time recovering lost animals and inanimate objects with another branch of our company so thought it a natural progression to go into pigeons.   We're bound to get the odd critic who says 'oh another one jumping in' but they don't have to use us, many others have and they're quite happy with our service.

 

Have to say, been reading through the forum, some excellent info here.  

[flighty hen]

Thanks, we've been in business a long time recovering lost animals and inanimate objects with another branch of our company so thought it a natural progression to go into pigeons.   We're bound to get the odd critic who says 'oh another one jumping in' but they don't have to use us, many others have and they're quite happy with our service.

 

Have to say, been reading through the forum, some excellent info here.  

 

Well done pigeon tracker for coming on board, I have heard of you before but glad to hear you are now dealing with pigeons.

[Guest chrisss]

Thanks, we've been in business a long time recovering lost animals and inanimate objects with another branch of our company so thought it a natural progression to go into pigeons.   We're bound to get the odd critic who says 'oh another one jumping in' but they don't have to use us, many others have and they're quite happy with our service.

 

Have to say, been reading through the forum, some excellent info here.  

 

i am not knocking any one here good luck to all of the firms starting up [now] all i want/need to know is how to i get by birds that i have brought/will buy from a to b,

[ChrisMaidment08]

Just thought I'd jump in and let you know that my company PigeonTracker recover birds from all around Wales.  We've set up our new website but its undergoing re-design.  Don't want to make this sound like an advert but if anyone is stuck then we're here to help.  Contact number is on pigeontracker.com or throught the Welsh Pigeon Union.

 

Hope that helps people.  

 

and were have you appeared frpom all of a sudden never heard of you just jump on lets see who you are and i mean name address bussness and anything we need to know

[jimmy white]

if another company said £30 one of payment and got it up and running it would not be long befor every tom dick and harry would want to join ,no i dont have a buissnes head but you should see the life i live ,and the problems i dont get,and it would take a lot of money£1200,000 sounds enough to me ,all of these other people coming on bord the gravy train WILL help kill the hobby ,they wont be able to have a price war with each other because of the cost of runnining things just wait and see ,yes i only said about RPRA members all the others have to do to get the same deal is become a RPRA member and pay the same as every body else, and dont forget about paramixo that is like bury your head in the sand it is here and here to stay because not all pigeon people inject there birds just look at how many on this site got it ,

 

 

les  ,please forgive me les, i am certainly not having a go at you, quite the opposite , i can see how strongly you feel about this , which, in itself is a good thing ,,but as you say all the fanciers would need to become members of the rpra, this im sure would never happen [this, alone  has nearly caused a war in scotland ;D] which, again , to me is a bit silly, but thats pigeon fanciers for you. i see what your saying, but cannot for the world of me see this work, there are far too many pitfalls in this [iwould love to see it work , for all fanciers sake] but in all honesty cant see it work ,, but one thing i will say, i admire your courage and conviction ,in wanting this to work ,,

the one other thing is the paramyxo ,, it is law,, to have birds vaccinated ,so if you have abided with the law , and vaccinated your birds , you have no worry of catching this desease or in fact spreading this desease ,so if any so called   fanciers " bury their head in the sand"and do not inject, they are in fact breaking the law, and liable to be fined .

[ChrisMaidment08]

piegeon tracker  im baffled as i cant find you anywere no advertisements or info on you please put phone no on i have 6 to go to pemdroke dock how much

[flighty hen]

piegeon tracker  im baffled as i cant find you anywere no advertisements or info on you please put phone no on i have 6 to go to pemdroke dock how much

 

Chris tel:01443 775485 info@pigeontracker.com www.pigeontracker.com