ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 you are taking wrong end smokers would not notice shortness of breath not peaple who suffer pidgeon lung listen here tam im sat here short of breath with my condition so dont feel im takeing p out of peaple with lung probs im not and never take p out of serious illness ever????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 true or false been told by older fanciers that if you smoked you didnt get P.F.L. know some fanciers with P.F.L. all have never smoked dave and here is post you answered then my comment so short breath they would not notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 no the smokers so how is it stupid i smoke 45 day i dont suffer allergy Maybe the nicotine is killing the fungus that develops in your lungs that is associated with PLD, it may be deemed stupid to smoke 45 fags a day :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 no dove doc says its not fags causeing my prob so it dont matter but soon i will have a sale because of illness leaving me???to play with my other hobby??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 but if i was diagnoised with it common sense says birds all birds would go and i would not be around pigeons non stop???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 no dove doc says its not fags causeing my prob so it dont matter but soon i will have a sale because of illness leaving me???to play with my other hobby??? Aye Dogging is probably an easy one no matter how ill you are ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 im baffled at this thread it started in 06 so tammy you still have birds well more birds now as you have moved youers you go to shows were there are hundreds youer round birds every day youer blood count iis was over 200 how are you managing to keep birds or are you going to sell them this year what masks are you useing now that may be of intrest to others with pigeon lung did you have to come to bristol for tests or was it in essex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarden Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 i had my blood tests last week,awaiting the results,just hoping the count isnt high, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 im baffled at this thread it started in 06 Having found this through a link on another post from IB, I wonder why it never bothered the older guys who I assume had pigeons before Tammy :-/ I am sure Tammy will answer the rest :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 do you get sweats waight loss cough tireedness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanz Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 I use a bradwest mask and my count has come down every year. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 I am sure Tammy will answer the rest :-/ thanks dove youer a gent nfoamyob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 do you get sweats waight loss cough tireedness Only when Chickadee gives me a job to do :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 what in stables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 I use a bradwest mask and my count has come down every year. Paul Is that the aircap by Bradwest or a face mask :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 sorry tammyi i was wrong it was around 2004 you were diagnosed not o6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 do you get sweats waight loss cough tireedness arrdan sorry this was for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarden Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 arrdan sorry this was for you i get flu like symptoms,5/6 hours after spending long periods in the loft,shivvers aching ,headaches and sweating, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 sounds like its a yes then i find as i smoke i dont have problem my mate is like you all symthoms but he now has mask wih air filter and all in one suite he takes off outside seems much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarden Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 did your mate have blood tests chris? does he have any problems at all now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 he did and was put on machine to check his qx intake yes he still has trouble he cant go to shows which he loved he must not visit mates or if he does must not go near birds or anything to do with them the show side of things you should ask tammy about he seems to go to them perhaps he could give tips on what he does to cope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOVEScot Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 he did and was put on machine to check his qx intake yes he still has trouble he cant go to shows which he loved he must not visit mates or if he does must not go near birds or anything to do with them the show side of things you should ask tammy about he seems to go to them perhaps he could give tips on what he does to cope There seems seems to be different forms or types, while dealing with Billy his consultant said he has the worst form of pigeon lung, he has a fungus in his lung and any more contact with pigeons would kill him, also he has to stay in a dust free atmosphere as much as possible http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1203805212/s-0/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 There seems seems to be different forms or types, while dealing with Billy his consultant said he has the worst form of pigeon lung, he has a fungus in his lung and any more contact with pigeons would kill him, also he has to stay in a dust free atmosphere as much as possible http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1203805212/s-0/ asit seemsdove some get it worse he looked like death wormed up but has im proved no end its a bad thing to have but as i said eailer on this thread before i was jumped on smokers have lineineing on lungs so probly spores are not able to infect but i know if high readcing its end of birds as even freinds carry spores on clothes so will start you off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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