sizes versus pigeons

[PATTY BHOY]

do you agree with these sizes.

 

RACING LOFT

 

SIZE AND CAPACITY

It needs to be taken into consideration birds housed in a race loft will gain their freedom on a regular basis to exercise, therefore a race loft can be smaller than a stock loft. Stock birds are generally kept as prisoners due to their increased value and the consequences of losing the bird or it suffering an injury through liberation is too great.

 

The minimum height for a race loft is to be 165cm from floor to ceiling.

 

The minimum space per pigeon is 116,000 cubic centimetres.

Example:

A race loft 180cm x 180cm x 180cm equals 5,832,000 cubic centimetres; divide this by 116,000 cubic centimetres per bird equals 50. Therefore 50 race pigeons could be kept in a loft this size.

 

PERCHES

Perches can be of various styles to suit the fancier but there must be at least 10% more perches than the number of birds housed in the loft.

Example:

180cm x 180cm x 180cm loft, housing 50 pigeons would need a minimum of 55 perches.

 

STOCK LOFTS

 

SIZE AND CAPACITY

Stock birds or breeding birds (confined at all times) require more room in their loft than do race birds.

Minimum height of the stock loft is to be 165cm from floor to ceiling.

Minimum space required per bird is to be twice that required for the race loft i.e. 116,000cm x 2 per bird.

 

Example:

A stock loft 180cm x 180cm x 180cm equals 5,832,000 cubic centimetres; divide this by 16,000cm x 2 per bird equals 25. Therefore 25 stock pigeons could be kept in a loft this size

 

[Guest]

I think the race loft has too many birds, i would consider what ventilation is before deciding on numbers. I always based it on how many perches i could fit in, preferably on just one wall. I'd allow 1 sq ft per box and 18 inches off floor, so that would be 27 per wall. In your example you would need 2 full walls of perches (27 x 2 =54) way too many IMO.

 

With stock, there is going to be a min of 10% of the room being taken up with dead air space so you would have to reduce the calcs. Again i would base it on the number of nest boxes i could get in (of good size), and of course wether they have an aviary makes a massive difference.

[pjc]

far to many birds in both:-

 

Race loft 6' x 6', if for youngbirds then prob 25-30max if oldbirds you could fit 8 widowhood boxes across the back wall which would accomodate 8 pairs in comfort.

Stock loft 6' x 6', again you can fit 8 good sized boxes but 6 pairs would be more comfortable.

 

In both the above the more space the birds have the happier they will be in there environment, a lot of youngbird fly aways are due to overcrowding. Put 30 yb's in a section with 30 perches and you'll lose 10 of them, put 20 birds in a section with 30 perches and you are unlikely to lose any in flyaways.

[joe61]

in a 6x6 ybs we would house 12 babies

in a 6x6 stock we would house 4 pair you must take in account the young from this 4 pair = 16

 

oh happy days

[Guest WINGS 04]

i have a 7 by 10 foot section for 35 young birds and  6 by 8 feet sections with  24  perches

[andrecrock]

My loft, well ventelated ....

Widowhood is 8x6  housing 8 pair.

Stock 8x8 housing 8 pair with 4x8 avaire.

Widowhood hens 4x4 housing 16 hens with 2x2x2 avaire.

Young birds 8x6 housing 45 with 3x2x2 avaire.

My birds are healthy and i feel healthy moving in the loft.

[jimmy white]

it was qouted by a well known ,now deceased,  b,h,w, vetenary scribe ,, that a half to one cubic sq  metre per pigeon,,depending on ventilation birds are happier, healthier, and in fact race better, when there is a fewer,     selected pigeons in the loft, rather than overcrowding it with non-selected pigeons my opinion only

[Guest mikkey]

would you say its the same space needed for any pigeon because a lot of roller folk fly their birds from kit boxes that are about 4x4x4 and 20 birds per kit

[jimmy white]

would you say its the same space needed for any pigeon because a lot of roller folk fly their birds from kit boxes that are about 4x4x4 and 20 birds per kit

 

i would say,, not quite,, rollers are smaller birds,, but by the same token , overcrowding will produce less fit rollers that wouldnt  fly to their full potential