/ SO WHEN IS A FED NOT A FED

[fred smyth]

OK  so how many clubs do u think should  be in a federation , do u think there should be  a limit that u cant go below , ive heard that some feds only have 4 clubs competing in them   only my view but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed ,

[Guest JPH]

and what happens if there is only 4 clubs in the fed area should they not be alowed to race,

 

a lot of feds that had loads of clubs are down to very few nowadays as the pigeon game is

 

just about finnished  :B :B

[Guest JPH]

OK  so how many clubs do u think should  be in a federation , do u think there should be  a limit that u cant go below , ive heard that some feds only have 4 clubs competing in them   only my view but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed ,

Ps you can only beat the birds you can fly against m8 so stop ridiculing guys that do not have 25,000 birds to fly against,   > >

 

 

[fred smyth]

and what happens if there is only 4 clubs in the fed area should they not be alowed to race,

 

a lot of feds that had loads of clubs are down to very few nowadays as the pigeon game is

 

just about finnished  :B :B

 

cant they join  together with another fed   , and were did i  ridiculing any one i am just asking a ?

[Guest JPH]

bye the way fred NIPA is not a fed its a collection of clubs and feds just like a combine.

[Guest JPH]

 

cant they join  together with another fed   , and were did i  ridiculing any one i am just asking a ?

you said people flying and saying they one first fed . you can only win 1 st fed in the competition you have available,  and no you cant join another fed if your not in there radius which here is the case,  some feds have less than 4 clubs nowadays.

so stop knoking the wee guys who dont have the 25,000 birdage to fly in like youy have available

 

 

[fred smyth]

bye the way fred NIPA is not a fed its a collection of clubs and feds just like a combine.

 

why u getting so upset i wasn't running any one down never named any one or any fed just asked a ? and put my view which i can do if i like

[jonny]

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1     Woodroffe bros   1613.0

2     R evans + son      1612.8

3    T stewart               1612.1

4    Woodroffe bros   1612.06

5    B ridley                  1612.02

6  W mooney             1610.0

7   Woodroffe bros    1609.9

8   Woodroffe bros    1609.8

9   R lund                     1609.0

10 Woodroffe bros   1608.8

11 A Shepherd           1608.2

12 C Nelson                1608.1

13 Ellison bros           1605.1

14 T.A. Kibble             1602.8

15 T Stewart               1598.8

16 K Smillie+son       1594.2

17 W Mooney            1593.7

18 J Churchill             1592.4

19 G Kelly                   1586.3

20 Young+toms         1579.6

 

CORNHILL               393

H SOUTHWICK       251

TOWNEND FARM  152

FARRINGDON        50

 

TOTAL BIRDS         846

 

 

 

 

 

woodroffe bros 3x 1st  up north combines

r evans and son unc chanel averages winner this year and numerous top 10 unc pos

t stewart 2nd unc and danish cup of friendship

some unc races have 25,000 plus birds competing we have 4 clubs in our fed and we have topped the fed twice this year and i am proud ( smillie + son )

[pjc]

As JPH says you can only beat the competition put in front of you.

Fred as you have mentioned the NIPA, how many feds does it consist of and how many clubs in each of its feds?

[fred smyth]

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1     Woodroffe bros   1613.0

2     R evans + son      1612.8

3    T stewart               1612.1

4    Woodroffe bros   1612.06

5    B ridley                  1612.02

6  W mooney             1610.0

7   Woodroffe bros    1609.9

8   Woodroffe bros    1609.8

9   R lund                     1609.0

10 Woodroffe bros   1608.8

11 A Shepherd           1608.2

12 C Nelson                1608.1

13 Ellison bros           1605.1

14 T.A. Kibble             1602.8

15 T Stewart               1598.8

16 K Smillie+son       1594.2

17 W Mooney            1593.7

18 J Churchill             1592.4

19 G Kelly                   1586.3

20 Young+toms         1579.6

 

CORNHILL               393

H SOUTHWICK       251

TOWNEND FARM  152

FARRINGDON        50

 

TOTAL BIRDS         846

 

 

 

 

 

woodroffe bros 3x 1st  up north combines

r evans and son unc chanel averages winner this year and numerous top 10 unc pos

t stewart 2nd unc and danish cup of friendship

some unc races have 25,000 plus birds competing we have 4 clubs in our fed and we have topped the fed twice this year and i am proud ( smillie + son )

 

and so you should be very well done   ,wish i had results like that  

[jonny]

sorry should have put sunderland and district fed result 22/8/09

[Guest JPH]

 

why u getting so upset i wasn't running any one down never named any one or any fed just asked a ? and put my view which i can do if i like

because i no a few feds who by no fault of there own only have a few clubs and your saying that they shouldnt be allowed to be called a fed get real m8  its statments like yours that puts down these small feds, where you should be encoraging them to keep going for the sake of the sport. Heard it all before theve only 4 clubs they shouldnt be allowed this or that

 

 

[fred smyth]

because i no a few feds who by no fault of there own only have a few clubs and your saying that they shouldnt be allowed to be called a fed get real m8  its statments like yours that puts down these small feds, where you should be encoraging them to keep going for the sake of the sport. Heard it all before theve only 4 clubs they shouldnt be allowed this or that

 

 

well i dident no this was such a sore point  sorry i asked now

[Guest JPH]

 

well i dident no this was such a sore point  sorry i asked now

fred its little bad apple commnts like yours hat have put a lot of smallclubs under and gets the barrell rotting

 

with they shouldnt be allowed to send they have only 5 members theres only 500 birds in there fed etc,  and buy the way where are these small feds  going to get more members or birds from. you going to send a few 1000 over for them to race against, doont sit on your laurels crowing about your 25000 bids because your iceberg is melting as well.

i remember not so long ago a fed here could send over 30,000 birds now lucky to muster 6000 on a good year,  your feet will get wet fred the same as everyone else sooner or later

 

so none of your cheap shots at the guys who are alredy in the puddle m8

 

 

[fred smyth]

fred its little bad apple commnts like yours hat have put a lot of smallclubs under and gets the barrell rotting

 

with they shouldnt be allowed to send they have only 5 members theres only 500 birds in there fed etc,  and buy the way where are these small feds  going to get more members or birds from. you going to send a few 1000 over for them to race against, doont sit on your laurels crowing about your 25000 bids because your iceberg is melting as well.

i remember not so long ago a fed here could send over 30,000 birds now lucky to muster 6000 on a good year,  your feet will get wet fred the same as everyone else sooner or later

 

so none of your cheap shots at the guys who are alredy in the puddle m8

 

 

jezzzzzzzzzzzzzz man give me a brake , i never put any one down  or said any of the things u are saying , so give over

[Guest JPH]

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1     Woodroffe bros   1613.0

2     R evans + son      1612.8

3    T stewart               1612.1

4    Woodroffe bros   1612.06

5    B ridley                  1612.02

6  W mooney             1610.0

7   Woodroffe bros    1609.9

8   Woodroffe bros    1609.8

9   R lund                     1609.0

10 Woodroffe bros   1608.8

11 A Shepherd           1608.2

12 C Nelson                1608.1

13 Ellison bros           1605.1

14 T.A. Kibble             1602.8

15 T Stewart               1598.8

16 K Smillie+son       1594.2

17 W Mooney            1593.7

18 J Churchill             1592.4

19 G Kelly                   1586.3

20 Young+toms         1579.6

 

CORNHILL               393

H SOUTHWICK       251

TOWNEND FARM  152

FARRINGDON        50

 

TOTAL BIRDS         846

 

 

 

 

 

woodroffe bros 3x 1st  up north combines

r evans and son unc chanel averages winner this year and numerous top 10 unc pos

t stewart 2nd unc and danish cup of friendship

some unc races have 25,000 plus birds competing we have 4 clubs in our fed and we have topped the fed twice this year and i am proud ( smillie + son )

 

yes and so you should be but if it was up to fred he wouldnt let you race cos you only got 4 clubs in your fed but his has 25000 apparently,  (NOT) ;)

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

1.If it is a breakaway fed because they are not winning or getting things there own way.

Well yes i believe there should be at least 40 members flying in at least four clubs other wise it is no more than a joke and should be called a club rather than a fed.

 

2.Is it a Fed that is long established but numbers in membership have dwindled because of many factors that is affecting the sport in general.

If this is the case then for there own benefit i would like to see them join/merge with another fed and with that they will keep costs down and have competition in which they can better themselves which can only be far more rewarding, but the question is will any fed accept them especially if they are flying in a far more advantageous area???

[Guest JPH]

 

jezzzzzzzzzzzzzz man give me a brake , i never put any one down  or said any of the things u are saying , so give over

fred read your fekin post you said you should not be allowed feds with 4 clubs, i think you should be appoligising to all the small feds you have just insulted. :-/ :-/

 

 

[fred smyth]

 

yes and so you should be but if it was up to fred he wouldnt let you race cos you only got 4 clubs in your fed but his has 25000 apparently,  (NOT) ;)

 

what the hell is wrong with u man ,  and did i say i raced in the NIPA  if u must no i dont  im only back in the sport  and have not raced  a bird since  1980 , maby u should look at yourself

[Guest JPH]

1.If it is a breakaway fed because they are not winning or getting things there own way.

Well yes i believe there should be at least 40 members flying in at least four clubs other wise it is no more than a joke and should be called a club rather than a fed.

 

2.Is it a Fed that is long established but numbers in membership have dwindled because of many factors that is affecting the sport in general.

If this is the case then for there own benefit i would like to see them join/merge with another fed and with that they will keep costs down and have competition in which they can better themselves which can only be far more rewarding, but the question is will any fed accept them especially if they are flying in a far more advantageous area???

yes gareth i aggree with that but some feds are dwindiling through no fault of there own and wont get in to other federation as you say lofft positions etc,  but i think fred is wrong saying they should not be aloud to race as a fed. its fine when your on top of the mountain shouting at the we guys bellow but remember when you get down to there level see who does the shouting.

 

 

[fred smyth]

fred read your fekin post you said you should not be allowed feds with 4 clubs, i think you should be appoligising to all the small feds you have just insulted. :-/ :-/

 

OK  so how many clubs do u think should  be in a federation , do u think there should be  a limit that u cant go below , ive heard that some feds only have 4 clubs competing in them   only my view but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed ,

 

 

 

 

 

were dose it say that  are u mad or looking at something els  , i said i think feds should have more clubs  did i say u should ban them if they dont wer  wer did i say that read the post again , and if u must no i can say what i like its an open forum

[Guest JPH]

 

what the hell is wrong with u man ,  and did i say i raced in the NIPA  if u must no i dont  im only back in the sport  and have not raced  a bird since  1980 , maby u should look at yourself

nothing wrong with me fred im not the one who came on with a daft *expletive removed* comment saying small feds with 4 clubs shouldnt be allowed did i especially when you know nothing about the reasons for them being smaller. And i no you dont race in the nipa yet

 

but stop bumming your chat :-/ :-/

 

 

[fred smyth]

nothing wrong with me fred im not the one who came on with a daft *expletive removed* comment saying small feds with 4 clubs shouldnt be allowed did i especially when you know nothing about the reasons for them being smaller. And i no you dont race in the nipa yet

 

but stop bumming your chat :-/ :-/

 

 

can u please show me were i said that,  read the post again and show me were i said that  i said i think a fed should have more than 4 clubs thats all wer did i say the things u are saying show me  point them out  u cant cos i never said them  

[Guest JPH]

  but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed , quoted from fred

 

 

no but you were running them down by saying they had won 1st fed this and that.

as i said people can only race in the competition they have and not all have 25000 to beat

 

so where do they get more clubs or members smart ass

[fred smyth]

  but i think a fed should have a lot more  clubs in them than 4 ,,  u see these results put up  20 1st feds , 30 1st feds  but how many clubs  and birds are they beating ,     now the NIPA   25000 + BIRDS A WEEK  thats what i call a fed , quoted from fred

 

 

no but you were running them down by saying they had won 1st fed this and that.

as i said people can only race in the competition they have and not all have 25000 to beat

 

so where do they get more clubs or members smart ass

 

were dose it say they shouldn't be allowed to race were dose it say they should be band  no were.   so dont say i said things i dident .

and yes i do think all results  should have members flying and how many birds  so as people can see the true result