Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 We are pleased to announce our W H P U Trophy winners 2009 Queens Cup: Preece Bros & Son Cwmtillery T G Buffett Memorial Cup (runner up to Queens) I Davies Bargoed Taffy Bowen Sprint Cup and J O Davies Young Bird A Buttigieg Jnr & Son Newport Congratulations to you all.
Guest strapper Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 well done to all ..well deserved to all who won.
Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Second year running for Preece Bros & Son
Guest neil Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Gail please could you put up the performances for each winner. congratulations to all winners. neil
Guest strapper Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Second year running for Preece Bros & Son thoroughly deserved too gail...they are a top top family of pigeon fanciers ..their name should be very well known in the uk not just in wales. after winning around 8-9 nationals ?against top fanciers as they have ,you can clearly see they are amongst the cream in uk racing
Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Gail please could you put up the performances for each winner. congratulations to all winners. neil neil I can't do that at the mo as I haven't got time but will try to do it next week
Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 Preece Bros & Son Metz 1st club 45 birds 5th fed 1558 birds 3rd north Sec fed 640 birds 4th Welsh national 593 birds Saverne 1st club 31 birds 1st fed 653 birds 1 north sec fed 242 birds 1st Welsh national 328 birds winning national by 2 and half hours
Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 I Davies Reims 1st Club 82 birds 3rd sec fed 874 birds 4th fed 3195 birds 2nd section Welsh National 439 birds 2nd Welsh national 1051 birds Heilbronn 1st club 10 birds 2nd centre sec fed 58 birds 4th fed 273 birds 2nd centre sec Welsh national 57 birds 3rd Welsh national 157 birds
Guest strapper Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 what makes the preece bros wins so good are the very top quality of national winners they fly against in their club..nevermind their fed and nationals...cwmtillery has to be in the top 3 clubs in wales. i think im right in saying that..they won two nationals last year??
Guest strapper Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 also iddie davies...can never count iddie out from putting a bird in the top 5 of the fed most weeks. fed champion and also multi national winner. when i topped the fed he put 4 in behind me plus some more down the pecking order..brill flyer. one thing about these two fanciers..they are still doing it many years down the line.
Gail J Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Posted October 23, 2009 I will put up Tony's next week as quite a few performances
Guest Rhondda RedFox Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Hi Neil, What do you think?? What has happened to all the Welsh Combine winners this year?? It will be interesting to see the performances of the Taffy Bowen trophy winner as our double combine winner was in for that as well. With birdage from Lillers approx 5,500 and Brussels just under 3,000.. I would have thought that Gav's Bonn winner was worthy of at least one of the trophy's as well, if he entered it?? Very strange, I wonder who judged it this year?
Guest tom123 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 hi rob has you are aware the welsh combine resigned from the whpu at the agm so all performances werent eligiable for entering for the trophies
Guest strapper Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 hi rob has you are aware the welsh combine resigned from the whpu at the agm so all performances werent eligiable for entering for the trophies good answer tom....as the lottery...you gotta be init to win it!
Guest Rhondda RedFox Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I suggest u both read the union rulebook!! It clearly states any pigeon flown under WHPU rules, combine races are flown under WHPU rules!!! Can the Fed and National be flown under WHPU rules and then the combine under a different set of rules for the same race?? I think NOT, talk some sense.
Gail J Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Posted October 24, 2009 the both trophies were won on the north route not the south east
Guest tom123 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I suggest u both read the union rulebook!! It clearly states any pigeon flown under WHPU rules, combine races are flown under WHPU rules!!! Can the Fed and National be flown under WHPU rules and then the combine under a different set of rules for the same race?? I think NOT, talk some sense. but the combine resigned from the whpu so results achieved within that organisation aint eligable for whpu awards the national position is yes and ur relevant federation but no positions of the combine and you did state in your post rob your double combine winner
Guest strapper Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 but the combine resigned from the whpu so results achieved within that organisation aint eligable for whpu awards the national position is yes and ur relevant federation but no positions of the combine and you did state in your post rob your double combine winner ur talking sense tom m8.
Guest Rhondda RedFox Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 You can only go with the rulebook and it clearly states any pigeon flown under WHPU rules.. Its not up for interprentation the race is flown under WHPU rules and therefore is eligable. I appreciate what the combine did but it achieved nothing really as the WHU is still the governing body unless the race is flown with the RPRA, which its not. And abviousley with the Double combine comes Fed etc..
Guest tom123 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 rob i appriciate what you are saying but gail pionted out that th trophies were won by performances on the new north road federation and further more the combine is a seperate organisation from the whpu so they are obviously competing under there own rulings this is a concern i didnt really want to get into im sure if you give gail a ring on monday she would be more qualified to explain it than me or anyone else
Guest neil Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Sorry for delay Rob,i was of the opinion that you and Gavin were in with a shout and when i spoke to him earlier the first thing he said was that did you win it? I thought both of you were in with a chance and take nothing away from the winners as it is always down to the judges and the performances that were top drawer,but i was not aware that your combine performances were not eligable and i think Gail will clarify all when she has time. With the Welsh North Road taking all the trophys maybe we have missed something.? Neil
Gail J Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Posted October 24, 2009 To clarify, all combine winners were eligible and submitted for all whpu trophies. They were judged by NWHU. Robert, unfortunately your pigeon entered for the taffy bowen sprint trpohy, only one of it's performances was eligible, i,e the lilliers race, as the TB trophy is for races up 300 miles. that's it for now as I'm off out and if Robert wants to see me up the club tonight I'm ready for the vodka ;D ;D ;D
Guest Rhondda RedFox Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Gail, Thanks for the clarification. Am surprised to hear that the Taffy Bowen Trophy is for under 300 miles only as this is not stated in the WHU rule book, where as the parameters for the Qeens Cup are clearly stipulated, however, if that's what it is, it is. Neil, I still don't understand how Gav's bird didn't get a look in? I think there was 1700 birds in Bonn? Never mind we live to fight another day, hey.
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