urgent help please

[Guest exoticlover]

ok the racer i found has gone down hill about 2 hours ago when i checked on my birds it was lieing on its side with shallow breathing and one eye closed at first a thought it was dead its owner is on here and i have pmed them about the bird tonight but have not heard back do i neck it keep it alive or take it to the vets   my own birds are fine but since this bird is not mine i dont know what to do  its droppings are blackie green it has been eating and drinking up itill i noticed it was like this

 

it was fine this morning when found it was on the ground and could not fly is there anything i can do i have brought it into the house away from my own birds as before it was in a pen away from the others but out side please help

[sammy]

be graceful with it and give it a happy ending  

[lithgilad]

where r u ?

 

[adam owen]

pm strapper or owen they pretty good mate

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

yer do the right thing

[tommy.walsh]

keep under a light m8 the heat will help eh its the other thing you can do make sure that there is water with the birds dip its head into the water to make sure it has fluids in its system

[Guest exoticlover]

thanks for quick replys am in edinburgh the bird was ok but i was a bit worryed as it could not fly it seams to have perked up a bit since being in the house altho has not drunk or eaten am new to racing birds as all my others are fancys am i legaly alowed to dispose of someone elses bird it does seam to be a little better can i take it to my vet with out the owners permision to get treatment

[Guest Jargre-]

thanks for quick replys am in edinburgh the bird was ok but i was a bit worryed as it could not fly it seams to have perked up a bit since being in the house altho has not drunk or eaten am new to racing birds as all my others are fancys am i legaly alowed to dispose of  someone elses bird it does seam to be a little better can i take it to my vet with out the owners permision to get treatment

 

No, its not your property, best wait for reply or if not then its your call, take it to the vet it will be £30 to put it down.

[tommy.walsh]

just keep it warm m8 it will be ok if its  keep warm

[Guest exoticlover]

i have no way of calling the owner due to only having my mobile i dont mind the vets costs if thats best i just dont want to get into trouble for disposing of someones bird its sitting up now but just seems very weak and leaning slightly forwards

[Guest joshdonlan]

someting is seriously wrong. i know what i would do  

[George UK]

try massage its legs i am daft but its ok

[Guest exoticlover]

it has just had a sip of water and standing i just dont see how it can be fine one min and ill the next

[Guest bakes]

what area are you from and what is the ring number ive got a full list of ring numbers here ive printed off from rpra website if its another union ring number someone one on here will give you details for the sec or the owner of the bird so you can get in contact with the owner of the bird but it dont sound well somethink wrong with it could be stress could be other problems

 

all the best.

[mark croker]

No one wants there bird to die slow like that,   hand feed it and make sure it has water,

 

If it was mine i would want you to put it down,  but i cant speak for someone else

[Guest exoticlover]

thanks for replys please see

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1262126108/

 

i have already found the owner and spoken to him on pms about collecting the bird altho i did pm tonight about this problem and have not heard back am sure they will get back to me soon they may just be busy i was just worryed and did not want there bird to suffer or die with out them knowing whats going on

 

the bird is now sitting up and has had more water as i have been just dipping its beak ito the water to let it drink

[blaz]

if its that bad cull it . if the best bird in my loft was like this it would be culled

[owen101]

cull it ut it is not his bird

would you let someone cull your bird

if they were new to the sport

 

i woldnt be able to do it as to yet

but if it was me would get it collected and assess it for myself

and then if it bad the actual owner can take the appropriate action

[blaz]

cull it ut it is not his bird

would you let someone cull your bird

if they were new to the sport

 

i woldnt be able to do it as to yet

but if it was me would get it collected and assess it for myself

and then if it bad the actual owner can take the appropriate action

 

if you ever get one of my birds in or any one you know gets any of my birds in uninjured, the it is no use to me on return i would cull it.do you think for a minute the fancier that owns this bird is going to keep it if he gets it back no it will be culled .

[Guest exoticlover]

i have culled birds before as used to breed and keep quails for eggs and meat al keep the bird till morning in the hope the owner gets back to me it has perked up alot am just unsure why it would of been acting the way it was am not new to pigeons just the racing side of things and breeds that race av kept fancy breeds for 7 years just never seen one act like this

[owen101]

i understand that as is it they say once a strag always a strag or somin along them lines

 

i was just sayin that i would not want to cull any birds JMO

i am younger and not been in the sport that long

so would not want to do anything that severe yet

if anyone got a pigeon of mine in i would not want it back in my loft

as it will wander into another loft at a later date

[Guest exoticlover]

 

if you ever get one of my birds in or any one you know gets any of my birds in uninjured, the it is no use to me on return i would cull it.do you think for a minute the fancier that owns this bird is going to keep it if he gets it back no it will be culled .

 

i had heard alot of birds are culled by there owners on return as the have not done what they are trained to do and had asked if i could keep the bird as am just starting to get into the racing side of things altho am yet to own racing birds my fancy birds are pets and i dont mind keeping a few racers as pets as well if there not good racers and there owners dont want them so if you get any you dont want send them my way altho i would also like to get a few good birds i could race my self

 

 

[blaz]

owen culling birds i am afraid is part of racing anyone telling you it is not is talking crap.i hate having to cull birds.i got asked years ago if i could cull birds from a member i said yes .he asked if i would go down to give him a hand to cull some.yes i said thinking 3or 4 or something like that. wrong evry single bird in the loft babies ybs yearlings old birds the lot .so when i say to anyone to cull a bird it is not a quick decision.this is a lost strag that is suffering . also putting other birds at risk of illness

[owen101]

yes totally agree no-one told me not to cull

i just dont know if i could do it to someone elses bird

i could do it to my own if they were not upto scratch or going to affect any others

 

and i see what you mean about illnesses gary

but exoticlover i think may be keeping the bird

 

all the best with the bird if you do exoticlover

[blaz]

if you are serious about racing birds .you are in edinburgh then i will help get you started , as i have one or 2 good race birds