2010 belgian rings and WHPU

[chichichi]

Are the welsh homing union allowing 2010 rings from belgium to race.. the RPRA and NEHU have stopped these being used ,, Has anyone asked the WHPU,,

 

Members in the club are asking as many trips are going over soon..

 

ant

[pjc]

I asked Ant and there has been nothing put forward to prevent them as of last week.

[chichichi]

Phil I thought the union decided if they were allowed or not..

 

lots of boys were asking in the meeting and one of the ponty boys said they were not allowed..

 

I expect the oldman will ring tomorrow.. he should have asked today when he phoned..lol..

 

ant

[pjc]

I asked Gail either last week or the week before as I have some here and was told there is no restriction on racing them as long as they are registered with the WHPU.

[Guest tom123]

theres nothing in the whu  hope its not a follow the leader situation then again rpra and nehu are only two unions in the country who have imposed this , why should we follow them ,and bare in mind forgien rings are a good money spinner for the whu in registration which i think will be stupid to throw away  :-/

[ceebee48]

if it has been found that these rings can be manipulated and put on old birds it should be nipped in the bud straight away not wait until somebody does it and gets away with fellow fanciers money

[Guest tom123]

thats why the european unions have have had them for two years so there members can be accused of cheating i dont think so ,just another change and progress that someone somewhere dont like  just the same when ets was brought in ,but how many would give them back now ,now theve used it for a year  not many is the ansewer

[ceebee48]

ets does not come into it .why are the belgiums in 2011 going back to the metal inserts .the dutch and french rings have metal inserts .so your point about the european unions is wrong .if there is any doubt about these rings they should not be allowed

[Guest tom123]

ets does not come into it .why are the belgiums in 2011 going back to the metal inserts .the dutch and french rings have metal inserts .so your point about the european unions is wrong .if there is any doubt about these rings they should not be allowed

 

they are more likely to be doing it over the complaints they have had from belgium fanciers not being able to sell at lier market to english fanciers

[Guest tom123]

ets does come into has it was the same when thast was introduced fault finding for weeks until fanciers excepted it was here to stay now there biting on something else now

[chichichi]

Tom how has ETS come into this thread,, ETS is secure,, belgian rings are not.. they can be manipulated with heat,, thats a fact,,

 

Tom these rings are being withdrawn for a reason,, The reason is they can be manipulated,, they do not comply with the FCI standard in 2010.. this is the reason for the 2011 change..

 

best of luck

 

ant

[pjc]

not only Belgium rings but all rings without a metal sleeve/insert.

[chichichi]

Agree phill all rings with out metal inserts do not comply with FCI standard..

 

A bloke in the know is saying they are not allowed,, but I do not think the WHPU has ruled against them,,  

 

The problem is people have bought these with no ban in place so they will have to let them go for 2010..

 

best of luck

 

ant

[pjc]

how many have you got Ant?

[chichichi]

none, ;D ;D ;D :P . boys been arguing down club over it..lmao.. doesn't make a difference to us,, but oldman gets asked all the questions as he is sec,,

 

I expect they will allow them for 2010 as many have been over and bought birds..

 

You would be surprised how many go over and buy for young bird racing,, 2011 will be back to the normal though..

 

This year the welsh are getting a good deal with all the others not wanting them to race.. so they can get a good deal for them at lier..

 

Time will tell what happens,, but can't see them banning them for racing,, so it will only really affect 2010..

 

best of luck

 

ant

[pjc]

make sure they don't forget to register them!   ;)

[chichichi]

make sure they don't forget to register them!   ;)

 

lmao..

 

phil we are RPRA racing now,,

 

Training only for the east route..lol.. keeps them on line.. ;)

ant

[Guest tom123]

i mentioned ets because once again

for the folowing reason ets the rings are new to most members over here, and a few dont like change be it for the good or not  be it with or without inserts ,noone seemed to mind when we had the old aluminium rings years ago before the plastic ones came out now they most probably could have been heated up and strectched but i think what your missing is the piont that these belgium rings are moulded and once you heat them that mould is broken and will show markes of tampering plus has anyone seen one once done is the lettering still in tact i dont know

 

,if you read other threads you will notice rpra members are not happy with the new rpra rings brought in which do have metal inserts but they dont like the lugs on the side , over the next few weeks that will die a death as well

 

[pjc]

Same old thing Tom, many don't like something new but there are still choices at the moment. But I think its more to do with the RPRA not asking the membership for an opinion before imposing the rings upon them.

Just want to race my birds and as long as they have a legal ring on the legs i couldn't give a monkeys what it looks like!

[Guest tom123]

ok the belgiums may or may not be bringing in metal inserted rings for 2011 hope they do will put an end to all this dispute we are having this year ,then it`ll be something else most probably not right

[adam owen]

what about dutch rings

[Guest tom123]

nothing wrong with them there like rpra rings

[clayton moore]

Tom, im sure you mean well, however the reason this years rings are being dissallowed is you can apply heat to them and take them off.2009 rings are the same but becouse they have already raced wearing them they are being allowed to stand. Im sure you will be one of the first to shout if your national winner is found to be a ringer.(no pun intended)The ring must have failsafe features being unable to get it off is a one. When the ring cools it returns like a ripple in the lake to its old self.

[Guest tom123]

cant see it myself has plastic has to be moulded ,but everyones got a right to an opinion and i except and respect that

 

  everything in any sport is subject to cheating and someone somewhere will always try it on has they have done for many years if it aint rings it`l be something else,

   but until someone is caught in the act be it ets rings ,clocks ,rubbers etc and and made example of  thers no case to anssewer is there? .  

 

has this could go on for months debating  it ,it remains to see how many are caught if any at the end of the year i suppose so lets look back on this at the end of the year and wonder what all the fuss was about

[soapy]

tom 123 i got your point ,sme fanciers complain just for the sake of complaining. if you put a handfull of shaving to little in the racing panniers they would complain . same with a handfull to much