Percy going to go?

[ChrisMaidment08]

tammy will fill you in

[DOVEScot]

why is everyone on about spelling god its because i thick right       ??????????only jokeing there is somewere

 

Just because you cannae spell does not make you thick, although there are the exceptions ;D

[ChrisMaidment08]

about spell check

[DOVEScot]

I'm a cynic but I'll wait until I see it. RSPB is very powerful, time yet for them to sway things ................. I hope I'm wrong though and it will become safe to let the birds out around the loft.

 

RSPB have a very powerful lobby, they have a huge membership due to their PR and cute advertising, not only bird watchers but the public as well who will never see half the birds they are paying to protect. you can bet your life they will be lobbying the government to put pressure on DEFRA to reverse it's decisions, bearing in mind they are only relaxing the rules regarding ringing captive birds in schedule 4

[Guest Vic]

 

Just because you cannae spell does not make you thick, although there are the exceptions ;D

  Quite True! DUNCESCOT. TO KEEP YOUR MIND BRIGHT, DIMWIT. TRY SPENDING 70p for the times crossword, the cryptic one. And in case you may be thinking of taking on the secretarial duties in your latest pigeon endeavour, a daily shot of the Times fiendish Sudoku, should keep you in good stead. lol. vic.    

 

 

[Guest chrisss]

enough of the doom and gloom, go on history, defra changing their minds on something? ;D ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

  Quite True! DUNCESCOT. TO KEEP YOUR MIND BRIGHT, DIMWIT. TRY SPENDING 70p for the times crossword, the cryptic one. And in case you may be thinking of taking on the secretarial duties in your latest pigeon endeavour, a daily shot of the Times fiendish Sudoku, should keep you in good stead. lol. vic.    

 

 

Poor old Vic

Even when I am skint I will be richer by far for the things I have learned along the way

[leighton1984]

In national paper today about a  robin in halifax that  has been  almost killed in some ones garden and they tell us they are not killing all are song birds.

[DOVEScot]

In national paper today about a  robin in halifax that  has been  almost killed in some ones garden and they tell us they are not killing all are song birds.

 

Surely as the name implies "Sparrow Hawk" it's main diet is not just pigeons :-/

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

Surely as the name implies "Sparrow Hawk" it's main diet is not just pigeons :-/

 

known to take anything up to size of pigeon

[jimmy_bulger]

is there any truth in the rumour doing the rounds that the perigrine is to come of the protected list.

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

known to take anything up to size of pigeon

 

including lead

[ChrisMaidment08]

is there any truth in the rumour doing the rounds that the perigrine is to come of the protected list.

 

yes according to tooth claw site they are worryed they will all be killed then

[The Navigator]

So they all say. Let's believe when it happens.

[jimmy_bulger]

well time will tell, i for one wont miss percy.

[Merlin]

 

 

No,its quite probable they will come off the (endangered list),which is a kick in the cobblies for the R.S.P.B so much for their mantra "a rare an endangered species" with no special concessions,same as many other species ,but will like most other species remain on protected list

[jimmy_bulger]

wonder whether the sparrowhawk will get the same tretment then.

[Merlin]

Again its a possibility,and I certainily hope so

[Guest Vic]

IN MY OPINION, TALKING OF MY OWN AREA, SPARROWS WERE  THE MOST ABUNDANT OF ANY BIRD. WE ALSO HAD OUR BLACKBIRDS AND THRUSHES DOING WELL BY REPRODUCING EACH YEAR. THEN THE MAGPIES MOVED IN, AND ALTHOUGH WE SEEM TO BLAME THE HAWKS FOR THE CARNAGE OF OUR SONG BIRDS, THE MAGPIES ARE THE GUILTY PARTY.  THEY ARE THE MOST CRAFTIEST BIRDS OF ALL, AND RATHER THAN TAKE THE EGGS FROM OUR SONGBIRDS, SIMILAR TO THE CUCKOO, WILL VISIT THE NESTS AT THE RIGHT TIME. TAKING 10 TIMES AS MUCH THROUGH EATING 10 DAY OLD YBS. SURELY  THIS MEMBER OF THE CROW FAMILY IS NOT A PROTCTED SPECIES?  

[DOVEScot]

 

known to take anything up to size of pigeon

 

True but the PC brigade will not admit to them taking small birds despite their name "Sparrow Hawk" and there are others that do not accept they touch pigeons because of their name :-/

[DOVEScot]

 

No,its quite probable they will come off the (endangered list),which is a kick in the cobblies for the R.S.P.B so much for their mantra "a rare an endangered species" with no special concessions,same as many other species ,but will like most other species remain on protected list

 

True but even though the likes of crows are classed as vermin it is against the law to kill them :-/

[Merlin]

Sadly thats true Dovescott,with the present laws,whats the lates on European Protection of Birds and web site Dovescott.

[DOVEScot]

Sadly thats true Dovescott,with the present laws,whats the lates on European Protection of Birds and web site Dovescott.

 

Still waiting on Phil to get time to get the website up and running

[Guest]

 

True but even though the likes of crows are classed as vermin it is against the law to kill them :-/

 

I'm ignorant on his. What's being said here, I thought I read Dovescot you say Percy wascoming off the registartion list i.e. no need to register. Merlin seems to be suggesting they are coming off the endangered list, ut you both agree it is still unlawful to kill them? That suggests to me that it makes no difference whether the endangered species tag is removed.

 

So if they are off the endangered list what in effect does this have, will there still be legislation in place that will allow heavy fines etc.

If the endagered tag was to be removed I assumed, why I don't know? that if you kill percy around your loft because you are protecting your birds you would not be prosecuted.

Can anyone clarify what is being proposed and what the implications are? Sorry if I've missed the clarity

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

I'm ignorant on his. What's being said here, I thought I read Dovescot you say Percy wascoming off the registartion list i.e. no need to register. Merlin seems to be suggesting they are coming off the endangered list, ut you both agree it is still unlawful to kill them? That suggests to me that it makes no difference whether the endangered species tag is removed.

 

So if they are off the endangered list what in effect does this have, will there still be legislation in place that will allow heavy fines etc.

If the endangered tag was to be removed I assumed, why I don't know? that if you kill percy around your loft because you are protecting your birds you would not be prosecuted.

Can anyone clarify what is being proposed and what the implications are? Sorry if I've missed the clarity

 

 

If they are off the endangered list then the RSPB will not receive any funding for breeding programmes, this will hurt the RSPB lobby. Even though something is not deemed as endangered then it is still against the law to kill it and you will incur heavy fines etc if you do so.

Schedule 4 that has been looked at recently is about registering and ringing captive birds again this will take away powers of the RSPB to monitor them or justify culling them as they are not classed as wild birds

Even though these changes take place it will still be against the law to cull them and almost any other bird in the UK :-/