Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 end result is falconers get pigeon men a bad name mick ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 please tell me how ? i bet a few ppl on hear who use to fly bop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 rings either come from defra or are rspb but all ahve to be registered that's the prize you falconer want mick, the ligit rings your name your breeding, time, date, the lot, then once establised the rspb come to you with orphants then its bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon_milker Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 milker how can they breed from it you have to gice the ring number so if its a wild taken and youve cut ring off how you gunna breed from it ? and you will be waiting about 3-4 yr for it to breed you catch adult bop or two then you ring the chicks put rings on them the Chick are legal and worth money ive seen it done so please dont tell me its not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 lol you aint got a clue have you bigda not one bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 can you not see both sides of the argument mick being a pigeon fler as well??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 milker how can you breed off wild illegally taken bop when you have to give the ring number ? them ring numbers will come up with the details of where the birds from they come up with wild dont you think some questions are goign to be asked where you got them from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 please tell me how ? i bet a few ppl on hear who use to fly bop maybe some did but have seen the light now, and know that rspb twisted there heads in telling them they protect all birds, that you and i know that is not the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 i can gangster i dont like either partys getting blamed for anything i fight the pigeon corner on the falcon forums to just as much as i fight falconers corner on hear its when you get people putting stupid things like they nick them to breed from that getts peoples backs up yeah it happens in pigeon racing peoples stock getting took and bred off but you get caught with illegally taken bop and you in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 milker how can you breed off wild illegally taken bop when you have to give the ring number ? them ring numbers will come up with the details of where the birds from they come up with wild dont you think some questions are goign to be asked where you got them from ? they normally say the bird is injured and need rest and was handed in to you mick ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingteessider Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 how do they know that pigeon was alive when tethered, It might of been tethered to stop the hawk carrying off the already dead hawk attacked pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 yes and i think that we should all chill now n not let this get 2 personal as we are all entitled 2 our opinions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 then you have to prove it that the bird is injured and you need a cover letter from defra digda i you dont have a clue so dunno why im bothering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon_milker Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 rings either come from defra or are rspb but all ahve to be registered i got 20 pigeon rings registered to me that come from defra so i can find a street pecker and ring and race it legal or not who to know?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 then you have to prove it that the bird is injured and you need a cover letter from defra digda i you dont have a clue so dunno why im bothering sorry you can take it in mick, but it goes on, and thats why there are so manny now, over feed the hawk and you loose it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white logan Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 totally shocked, as to what these falconers will get up to, trying to steal the hawk for profit and sell it abroad i suppose, they have a dam cheeck and trying to blame the honest pigeon fanciers of northern Ireland i have heard falconers in the pub say they can get £3,000 cash easy for one of them peregrines, and where is the protection of all birds they seem to think its normal that they are allowed to eat all types of birds bar them selves :-/ if you have "heard" of those sort of figures for peregrines YOU HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR EARS , try £450 maximum for a good young female , secondly the street pecker in the photo is just that "a street pecker" probably staged by the RSPB to shift public opinion to there point of view again just to keep the money comming in and give racing boys a bad name , like shooters , game keepers , falconers ,for f--ks sake wake up , with all the whinging racing lads are doing about loses to hawks i think its a case of them "striking first" and yet again getting public opinion on their side . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 if you have "heard" of those sort of figures for peregrines YOU HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR EARS , try £450 maximum for a good young female , secondly the street pecker in the photo is just that "a street pecker" probably staged by the RSPB to shift public opinion to there point of view again just to keep the money comming in and give racing boys a bad name , like shooters , game keepers , falconers ,for f--ks sake wake up , with all the whinging racing lads are doing about loses to hawks i think its a case of them "striking first" and yet again getting public opinion on their side . they sell the birds in saudi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon_milker Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 my poor pigeons only worth 10 bob each think i might start keeping eagle owls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 if they sell them in saudi how they ship them if there nicked ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white logan Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 not peregrines , and not for that sort of money , still you did hear it in a pub ;D another barrack room lawyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 white logan at least some one who knows what there taking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 if they sell them in saudi how they ship them if there nicked ? how would they be nicked if you are a regestered falconer getting rings from defra to put on your cluch you have the paper work all regesterd in your own name and its not the first time they have been sold, and told defra that one flew away you can send anything out the country if you have the paper work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white logan Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 white logan at least some one who knows what there taking about i bred them for 20 years , thats genuinly bred them !, i was one of the first three in the country to have my birds DNA tested , between the police ,united utilitys ,DEFRA and the RSPB something like £20,000,000 million was launched into DNA profiling , so breeding off a wild caught one is a non starter , they will tell you where it was nicked from , and the arabs dont want peregrines , they dont like em , strange how an RSPB man was there to give comment again ,you racing boys, your the next bad lads , just like the game keepers , shooters , falconers , your whinging has been heard by the protectionists so they are doing a PR job on you first , get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 dont disagree with you what your saying there mate, but did not mention a bird with out a ring as most sights are visited and birds rung in the nest, i was saying on how to catch one you would use a pigeon, and if you are a registered falconer and wanted a hen to breed or a cock for nowt that's what you would use, in disguise as a pigeon fanciers atemp to kill the bird but should the hawk tangle its feet up in the cord then its easy to take home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white logan Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 dont disagree with you what your saying there mate, but did not mention a bird with out a ring as most sights are visited and birds rung in the nest, i was saying on how to catch one you would use a pigeon, and if you are a registered falconer and wanted a hen to breed or a cock for nowt that's what you would use, in disguise as a pigeon fanciers atemp to kill the bird but should the hawk tangle its feet up in the cord then its easy to take home peregrines DONT NOT kill anything on the ground their feathers break easily ,they are a true bird killer of the air, they wont eat carrion , tethering pigeons does not work , i bet a pound to a pinch of sh** it was instigated by the RSPB to make a slur on racing pigeon men , keep making your donations to their fund please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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