Strain Characteristics

[snowy]

must be hard at first when you lose your best bird, but i suppose you get used to it, but still be gutted.

[snowy]

as anyone done any good with the young by crossing two different strains:

ie: kirkpatricks/putmans or janssens/logans? or any other different strain combination?

& if so. is it best to breed longdistance strains together?

just curious. thanks.

[Guest]

as anyone done any good with the young by crossing two different strains:

ie: kirkpatricks/putmans or janssens/logans? or any other different strain combination?

& if so. is it best to breed longdistance strains together?

just curious. thanks.

 

In my options if you want to race long distance, put best long distance hen and cock pair and don't bother into Strains as long as they're pigeons, the strains don't bother me.      

[Guest ben]

Hi Snowy,

                now your talking of the Classic British way of racing pigeons,Crossbred to race,inbreed for stock.

      So cross your kirk-putmans,race them hard,whatever comes through over 500 miles,pair BACK into the originals,then start all over again.

  but saying that,thosePutmans could bred decent racers pure,so you could pair best of the offspring back to their parents.

          Sorry if it`s confusing!

[snowy]

cheers ben, not so confusing now(at last) im getting the gist of it all. cheers.

[Guest]

i read about the night flyers long distance birds from holland, so i have just brought a pair in to try  but thay do not look right to me i will post a photo of them tomorrow morning when thay come down .just like to know what the members think of them

[Guest]

%5B/img%5D%5Bimg%5D[/img]ONE COME DOWN EARLY

[snowy]

jimmy,

in your opinion, for a long distance bred young bird that you want to try the distance with, once the young bird is homed round the loft, what age & when & how far would you take the young bird training,?  whats your opinion?  i know everyone is different, even with their first toss, varies quite a lot of miles.

thanks.

 

[snowy]

or anyone elses opinion?

[Guest ben]

Hi Snowy,

              I used to single up the babies after 10-12 weeks old,makes them independent,thinking for themselves,its wonderful if you can take in turns,between yourself,and perhaps your wife.so you can see them come in yourself sometimes,to take them late evening in summer,letting them go every 10 minutes,when you see them come home on their own,right out the sky,hitting straight through the traps brilliant,gives you goosebumps all over,and they never forget those lessons

[snowy]

that is something i cant wait for ben! really looking forward to watch them come in

[jimmy white]

i would start yb training at about 10 weeks old starting with a couple of miles working up to 50 miles, i would also train differant directions  when slighly experienced, single or double up if i had time, train every day if possible, BUT , in this day and age , theres the old hawk problem.??? so it kind of depends on the area your in., but if possible would like my ybs well trained.

[snowy]

cheers jim,

as it happens, havent had the hawk around for a couple of weeks now, but guess who is around?  loads of big black crows! ;D ;D ;D

where the hawk used to sit & hide in the neighbours tree, hawks have taken residence to a big tree the next garden away! what a delight they are!, they even swooped down to one of my lazy birds that was sat on the chimney!! save me getting the hose pipe out!!! ;D

regards

[schouwman71]

the old janssens from louella,arjan eddy, merckx, stamvater were real sprinters ,they were mad headed and many times watched my youngsters go over on race days to come out of the back like bullets,and yes they did have red eye cears,i still have them with the rich pearl eyes and red eye cear but also have a janssen hen with a gold -yellow eye like a christel of mountains and she breeds fantastic pigeons and is a golmine at stock.

[tist man]

hi everyone.this is my first ever comment in any chat room and for what its worth i say any colour is a good colour as long as its a clean and  bright .many of my tist eyssen janssens have white eyes and win at all distances in fast and slow races,so dont take eyeisign as gospel.

the feet theory is 100%.chow

[Silverdale Lofts]

Janssen story http://www.boglinmarsh.com/clingan3.htm

[rlez]

the only way to find out if you have distance birds IS TO SEND THEM and i mean600-700mls what comes home breed from them and then try again,the trouble is some wont send their best to these races in case they lose them.you will never be overstocked with this method

les

[birdman55678]

I believe most people that own janssens do think they are only sprint birds as that is the overall feeling about them.  They do not bother to send the birds on the longer races because who wants to send a bird that can't win, and thats what I believe most think.  There are very few true Janssens around here, most have been crossed and then recrossed again.  What has been crossed into them will determine if they can go the distance.  I think Lindas janssens are some of the better long distance janssens around.  Ed

[Guest]

Thanks Ed,

 

You still have a few of them don't you ????

 

[birdman55678]

Yep I still have one cock and 2 hens that came from Calif, and several more that I have raised..  Ed